Adu to Monaco on loan

[EURODAD]

Originally Posted by BenficaUnited

i think he was talking about camacho..which i happen to agree with.

You are right. My bad. I also agree with you guys then.

[Frank Cunha]

Freddy talks to ESPN
about the U 20 world cup and the move to Benfica
Freddy Adu

Adu In europe the coach's just don't talk to the players,

Rui Costa my mentor
biggest goal against Maritimo

[Frank Cunha]

Adu didn't get call for the upcoming game against Sweden, so he my play 5 minutes against Feirense
don't make sense

he should be call for the game on Feb 6 against our rival Mexico


OPENING DAY

The United States national team plays its first game of the year on Saturday, when it takes on Sweden in Carson, Calif.

Coach Bob Bradley has selected a roster of mainly MLS players, plus three players -- defenders Dan Califf and Ramiro Corrales and forward Jeremiah White -- whose Scandinavian teams are on winter break.

Sweden coach Lars Lagerback will also be looking at young players.

"Our opinion is that the best players should play in competitive games," said Lagerback, whose team won at Costa Rica, 1-0, on Sunday. "Therefore, this is an excellent opportunity to try a few new players."

Bradley is expected to bring in more European-based players for the Feb. 6 game against Mexico in Houston.

[Benfica#1]

He didn't get the call cause Benfica don't let him show what he has as a player. Benfica shows as he's just good 4 the last 5 minutes makes me sick

[Frank Cunha]

I have to agree, it makes me sick to just ear in the rtp news the new signee will be getting a chance to play vs Feirense, when a player like F Adu just been ignored
In the news I also saw F Adu working his ass in today's training

[Benfica#1]

He will probably start this weekend BIG DEAL!!!

[Benfica#1]

What about the other games he is no good. When 5 minutes left then he is good.

[BenficaUnited]

Originally Posted by Frank Cunha

I have to agree, it makes me sick to just ear in the rtp news the new signee will be getting a chance to play vs Feirense, when a player like F Adu just been ignored
In the news I also saw F Adu working his ass in today's training

you should know by now frank that benfica loves to burn their young players..
what a mockery.

[EURODAD]

Originally Posted by BenficaUnited

you should know by now frank that benfica loves to burn their young players..
what a mockery.

Now there is a honest and accurate post if Ive ever heard it. Benfica do not have the patients required to develop young talent. They are overly concerned about winning today and throw tomorrow away.

[afumacas]

wait. there's 2 ways to look at it.
if you throw in a young player, and for some reason that player can't handle the pressure and is booed off the field by the fans on his 3rd or 4th outing, wouldn't that be considered "burning" - because essentially you are putting in a player that is not ready to play, and you are basically throwing him to the "lions".

I share everyone's frustrations on Freddy's lack of playing time, but in the back of my mind if have to think that Camacho knows what he is doing.
Let me ask another question,

How many of you think that DiMaria is not as good as you thought he was initially?

Do you think his playing time and subsequent performances have influenced your answer?

The reason why DiMaria gets more PT than Freddy can very well be a mental thing, Camacho knows that DiMaria comes from a country where soccer is part of the culture, Di Maria is used to playing in front of 20-30k people. Freddy doesn't have that type of experience. This is all new to Freddy, Freddy has never been so involved in soccer.

go over to my blog, check out Freddy's interview with espn, you can get a feeling for how he feels and how Freddy speaks of the soccer culture in an overwhelming way.
He also talks about how Rui Costa is his mentor and how he learns everything from Rui.
Talking to the Doll

[EURODAD]

Originally Posted by afumacas

wait. there's 2 ways to look at it.
if you throw in a young player, and for some reason that player can't handle the pressure and is booed off the field by the fans on his 3rd or 4th outing, wouldn't that be considered "burning" - because essentially you are putting in a player that is not ready to play, and you are basically throwing him to the "lions".

I share everyone's frustrations on Freddy's lack of playing time, but in the back of my mind if have to think that Camacho knows what he is doing.
Let me ask another question,

How many of you think that DiMaria is not as good as you thought he was initially?

Do you think his playing time and subsequent performances have influenced your answer?

The reason why DiMaria gets more PT than Freddy can very well be a mental thing, Camacho knows that DiMaria comes from a country where soccer is part of the culture, Di Maria is used to playing in front of 20-30k people. Freddy doesn't have that type of experience. This is all new to Freddy, Freddy has never been so involved in soccer.

go over to my blog, check out Freddy's interview with espn, you can get a feeling for how he feels and how Freddy speaks of the soccer culture in an overwhelming way.
He also talks about how Rui Costa is his mentor and how he learns everything from Rui.
Talking to the Doll

Yes there are circumstances when players are not ready to play for the big club. That happens. However, that is not what is happening hear, is it. We are talking about a coach playing a young player only 10 to 15 minutes a game while he has veteran players play alot of time while not being productive. Eg Nuno Gomes. You burn players by sitting them on the bench. Benfica has done this time after time over the years with young players. You can not have it both ways. Purchase youth but dont play them. Whats the point. Im sorry but Camacho not playing Adu is not the right thing to do. Not for Adu and not for Benfica. Play him now (especially since this year is gone) so that he (and other young players) are ready to compete for next year. Lets face the facts. Benfica can not afford to purchase top players any more. Those days are gone. We have to go young and hold them as long as possable. You mention DiMaria playing time. I put forward that I would much rather see him get alot of playing time than Nuno.

[DonJacobeone]

I just did some research on Di Maria. It seems like in Argentina Di Maria was used mostly on the left side whether it was forward or midfield. Therefore, it is very simple. 1. Di Maria either plays him Left Mid or Striker w/ Cardozo. 2. Freddy Adu plays Right Mid. (He has an unbelievable weak foot, which happens to be his right"If you watched the game against Setubal he took a corner from the right side with his right foot, WOW!!!! for a weak foot"). Its that simple. You won't be burning them because they are playing their positions that they are comfortable in. When a player starts the game bad, you don't take him out right away, you let him straighten it out on the field. I he doesn't straighten it out on the field, then you take him out in the second half or a little after the beginning of the second half. Therfore, the whole point of this is someone really doesn't know what they are doing, either Camacho or Luis Felipe Vieira.

Next, I just saw the news about Camacho in the Premier League and how is agent is denying it. I don't want to rush to judgment, but I believe it is true. If it is true then he should just go now. Why wait??? Benfica isn't going anywhere anyway. Just get the hell out now and maybe now Vieira and the Committee will have no choice but to find a good coach.

Lastly, after all this news lately, Benfica has become the laughing stock. They are an embarrassment and a shame to their fans, pathetic to soccer fans in general. I have never seen or heard of Benfica being what they have become. I hope they straighten this out quickly, when I say this I mean everything from their coaching staff to their President to their players.

I love Benfica (I was born loving Benfica by my father, brother and now my cousin also) but let me tell you I would much rather watch a Porto game to see a real soccer game than to watch Benfica. I am almost considering getting satellite so I can watch real games from the Premier League and from the Primera Liga.

[BenficaUnited]

let's face the facts.. benfica is HORRIBLE when it comes to getting value for their players.. horrendous.. take porto for example.. when they sell.. they sell BIG.. they don't undervalue their players and sometimes get MORE value than they should.. that organization should be benchmarked. from the way they run the club to the finances.. porto just recently got an offer of 8 mil for lucho.. you really think porto is gonna sell lucho for 8 mill? more than likely what happened was PDC called them back just to hang up on them. and quite possibly giggled before the other end heard the phone hang up.
what benfica needs to do is give these guys what they need.. they need experience.. you're not gonna get that on the bench or coming in for 5 minutes.
but it goes beyond that for me.. and it brings me to a state of rage and confusion... i'll give you one of my favorite sayings..
YOU PLAY YOUR BEST PLAYERS! DAY IN, DAY OUT!
i don't care who has what for experience, who has the captains badge, who has the longest legs, who has the most height, most weight, longest hair, who looks better when it rains, who likes to take shits every morning or who likes to brush their teeth after every meal.. YOU... PLAY... YOUR.. BEST.. PLAYERS! EVERY SINGLE TIME.
that's it!.. end of story. and right now... camacho is NOT playing his best players or has his best lineup in there.. he switches it around for every game.. and i dont wanna hear about "it's a matchup thing".. it's called OVER coaching. if you have your best players in the game then you need not worry so much.. that's why they have something called "substitutions".. if something doesn't look right or feel right in a particular game then you make the necessary changes.. bottom line.. we're not performing brain surgery here folks.. but to me??? if you're not playing your BEST players from your squad, you've given the game away before it's even started.

[afumacas]

Originally Posted by EURODAD

Yes there are circumstances when players are not ready to play for the big club. That happens. However, that is not what is happening hear, is it. We are talking about a coach playing a young player only 10 to 15 minutes a game while he has veteran players play alot of time while not being productive. Eg Nuno Gomes. You burn players by sitting them on the bench. Benfica has done this time after time over the years with young players. You can not have it both ways. Purchase youth but dont play them. Whats the point. Im sorry but Camacho not playing Adu is not the right thing to do. Not for Adu and not for Benfica. Play him now (especially since this year is gone) so that he (and other young players) are ready to compete for next year. Lets face the facts. Benfica can not afford to purchase top players any more. Those days are gone. We have to go young and hold them as long as possable. You mention DiMaria playing time. I put forward that I would much rather see him get alot of playing time than Nuno.

i agree with you and share your frustrations in relation to Adu. I want to believe Freddy is being handled well, and his time will come, when Camacho feels he is ready. One thing we must remember is that no matter how much things may seem clear to us from the outside, it's not always the case on the inside.
Don't forget that Camacho sees these players day in and day out, he has knowledge of these players that the normal fan doesn't have, and you have to think that many of his decisions are based on this knowledge.

And i'm not defending Camacho, as he has made some mistakes, especially this very last game, but i have to trust his knowledge and his coaching ability.
Di Maria is getting a lot more time than Adu, but Adu is not a wing player.. he is a 9.5/10 slot player. the same way DiMaria will not play well in Nuno Gome's position.. It takes time, we have to be patient. we have a lot of young players and with that amount of yourth it's very hard to be succesful, we have to give them time to adapt.

[afumacas]

Originally Posted by BenficaUnited

let's face the facts.. benfica is HORRIBLE when it comes to getting value for their players.. horrendous.. take porto for example.. when they sell.. they sell BIG.. they don't undervalue their players and sometimes get MORE value than they should.. that organization should be benchmarked. from the way they run the club to the finances.. porto just recently got an offer of 8 mil for lucho.. you really think porto is gonna sell lucho for 8 mill? more than likely what happened was PDC called them back just to hang up on them. and quite possibly giggled before the other end heard the phone hang up.
what benfica needs to do is give these guys what they need.. they need experience.. you're not gonna get that on the bench or coming in for 5 minutes.
but it goes beyond that for me.. and it brings me to a state of rage and confusion... i'll give you one of my favorite sayings..
YOU PLAY YOUR BEST PLAYERS! DAY IN, DAY OUT!
i don't care who has what for experience, who has the captains badge, who has the longest legs, who has the most height, most weight, longest hair, who looks better when it rains, who likes to take shits every morning or who likes to brush their teeth after every meal.. YOU... PLAY... YOUR.. BEST.. PLAYERS! EVERY SINGLE TIME.
that's it!.. end of story. and right now... camacho is NOT playing his best players or has his best lineup in there.. he switches it around for every game.. and i dont wanna hear about "it's a matchup thing".. it's called OVER coaching. if you have your best players in the game then you need not worry so much.. that's why they have something called "substitutions".. if something doesn't look right or feel right in a particular game then you make the necessary changes.. bottom line.. we're not performing brain surgery here folks.. but to me??? if you're not playing your BEST players from your squad, you've given the game away before it's even started.

But wait, would you play your BEST PLAYERS or would your play the players that give you the best team chemistry?

Maxi can't play right mid.
and i think Camacho should Try out Freddy in Nuno Gomes' position
those would be the only changes i would make - but to be quiet honest, benfica's squad is far from being a balanced squad. DiMaria is best on the left, and we don't have anyone better for the right, Assis is an interior player, not a winger, like i said the squad is so out of balance.

rui costa is a pure 10 not a 9.5 - and for rui costa to sit in the middle we would have to lose one d-mid. sit katsouranis?

so it would look something like this

------------Quim-------------------
Nelson-Luisao-David Luiz -Leo
------------Petit------------------
---------Rui Costa---------------
DiMaria--------------- Rodriguez
-------------Adu-------------------
-----------Cardozo----------------

check out the bold "diamond" - tell me that that's not how you'd like to see Benfica play?