Euro Qualifier: Scotland v Italy - 17th Nov 07

[Doc-Bhoy]

Originally Posted by ParmaKing

Good game to the Scots. A draw would of been the just result, but these things happened. When we scored a legit goal, and Scotland scored an offside goal, I kept calm, and said that is football.

Officiating was not at its best today for both sides, but the game was still very entertaining.

Good game, I just wish it was the arrogant french, not Scotland.

An Italian who knows what there talking about good comments ParmaKing.

Draw would have been fair, but anything can happen in football.

[ParmaKing]

Originally Posted by jec1

It came off from buffon and the scotland player tipped it in....it's hard to make a call like that when the keeper doesn't have total control of the ball.

Azzurri, your acting irrational....you won, now shut the hell up!

No, no. The Scottish player was in an OFFSIDE position. Not sure how things are in Scotland or Portugal, but in Italy and according to the UEFA, you can't score from an offiside position. Now it could be that the Italian feed had different angles of it, but trust me, the goal was clearly offside.

Before the ball even touched Buffon, he was offside. If it went in, then fine. But Buffon saved it, then he booted it in....that is an offside goal.

[azzurri]

Originally Posted by Doc-Bhoy

It's OK mate im used to the scum tactics of italians these days - not a big thing.

The boys done the country proud through out the campaign and exceeded all expectations

Well Done.

Scum tactics? Until Scotland qualify, let alone win, a major competetion, than u look hilarious stating who's tactics are scum.

Tbh, I dont expect anything less from an Arsenal supporter.

The fact remains, the game would have been sealed at HT if not for a shitty offside call, and than to add insult to injury, Scotland claw their way back of an offside goal. Based on what Im reading now, I cant imagine the moaning which would come out of u if our roles were reversed.

If any1 was robbed, it was Italy, of a larger lead.

[jec1]

I probably saw it from a different angle due to the telecast, He looked aligned with the defender to me but man the refs made some dubious calls.

[llewelyn]

tough result. i really like hutton and mcfadden, theyre both quality players. as i said in the italy board, i thought zambrotta did a good job shutting down brown.

in the end though italy converted one of the few chances they got in the second half while scotland wasted one of theirs with mcfaddens miss.

that's a painful way to go out. i sympathize for all scotland fans out there. as an italian ive been there many times before and the feeling takes a long time to get over.

[ParmaKing]

Jec, I would say otherwise. He was clearly offside. I watched the game on Rai International. They showed it from three angles.

As for our tactics, I don't see the problem? The game was wide open, excellent game for the neutral.

My only criticism of Scottish football is that they get to hung up on fouls for and against. You can't reach the next level if you don't get this out of your system. Especially against the better teams that like to hold on to the ball.

You lose concentration, and you play into the other team's hands.

[Doc-Bhoy]

Scum tactics? Until Scotland qualify, let alone win, a major competetion, than u look hilarious stating who's tactics are scum

lol That comment is laughable to be fair, even the commentators were talking about the sidegames that Italy play e.g diving, time-wasting ( all that crap).

Tbh, I dont expect anything less from an Arsenal supporter.

Elaborate? No infact dont this is about Italy v Scotland - dont want to hear anymore pish from you.

I cant imagine the moaning which would come out of u if our roles were reversed.

lol if our roles were reversed we would be going to Euro 2008 so no i wouldnt be moaning.

Gutted about not getting there but we done brilliantly this campaign and showed that we can finally play against top teams again. Also 3rd place means we get a better draw for World cup bring on Italy.

[azzurri]

Originally Posted by Doc-Bhoy

lol That comment is laughable to be fair, even the commentators were talking about the sidegames that Italy play e.g diving, time-wasting ( all that crap).

Hilarious considering Scotland benefitted more from bad calls than Italy.

Elaborate? No infact dont this is about Italy v Scotland - dont want to hear anymore pish from you.

Unless its passed into the net, its scum tactics in the eyes of an Arsehole fan. Also, your gonna here "pish" from me as long as I continue to read your Italian bashing, because Im sick of reading your stereotypical Italian bullshit everytime 1 of your many teams (must be nice btw) meet Italian opposition.

lol if our roles were reversed we would be going to Euro 2008 so no i wouldnt be moaning.

Good way to dodge my point. Unfortunately, I was referring to your selective bias, which strangely makes out Italy to be the lucky ones, despite Scotland getting a lifeline from the ref which made the game alot closer than It should have been.

[robinho]

i felt sorry for the scots they played good and missed some chances
i watched the game and there was just one team which kept attacking and playing great but they missed a few goals and so it's gone to the wrong team "italy" but the scotland team deseves alott of respect for thier hard play and their confidence

[Doc-Bhoy]

You will find that not once in this thread did i mention Italy to be lucky.

My original comment:

My time to complain, no way was that a freekick - Cheillini barged Hutton off the ball.

Time-wasting pricks.

Was a stab at you because you are a moaning **** who doesn't like things going against your team.

I will continue to bash Italians because my " stereotypical" views are true from what i have seen from Italian games over the years. I have one team, Celtic, I just happen to like Arsenal who play the best football and are enjoyable to watch.

[llewelyn]

Originally Posted by robinho

i felt sorry for the scots they played good and missed some chances
i watched the game and there was just one team which kept attacking and playing great but they missed a few goals and so it's gone to the wrong team "italy" but the scotland team deseves alott of respect for thier hard play and their confidence

i agree that scotland deserve a lot of respect for their run during the qualifying campaign. however, i disagree with your statement that the wrong team won. the fact that italy scored very early really changed the flow of the game, imo. most of scotland's best chances came on corners. in the end it came down to italy converting one of their few opportunities and scotland failing to convert their one and best chance from open play. a draw wouldve been a fair result, but i think its dismissive to say that the wrong team won.

[LAF]

azzuri stop being a prick mate and trying to play the victim. Italy were lucky today, the ref was giving you alot of non calls. The FK at the end being the perfect example.

I just can't believe such a bad call can ruin a game like that. Anyway we deserved more than nothing.

Lucky!

Applaud the boys though, we out played the world champions second half.

Oh and Baz was level atleast.

[azzurri]

Originally Posted by LAF

azzuri stop being a prick mate and trying to play the victim. Italy were lucky today, the ref was giving you alot of non calls. The FK at the end being the perfect example.

I just can't believe such a bad call can ruin a game like that. Anyway we deserved more than nothing.

Lucky!

Applaud the boys though, we out played the world champions second half.

Oh and Baz was level atleast.

IT SHOULD HAVE HEVER BEEN TIED!!! Whether we had a bullshit free kick at the end (which Scotland couldn't defend), is irrelevant in my eyes, its crossed out by an offside goal Scotland scored, and even further made irrelevant when u count Di Natale's wrongly called back goal.

As for luck, Italy put 3 in the net, whereas Scotland could only manage 1 with the help of the ref. How many of Scotland's chances were on goal?

I could care less how much possession and headless running the Scots did, it didn't amount to anything, and after watching the azzurri for many years, It was a typical Italian performance, pre-WC 06.

[LAF]

lol be blind to it then it's your call.

We had three very good chances that we couldn't finish (Pirlo off the line, Hutton over the bar and McFadden missing a sitter).

End of the day the ref won you the game with that bullshit call (if the shoe was on the other foot mate you would be calling for his head).

[azzurri]

Originally Posted by LAF

lol be blind to it then it's your call.

We had three very good chances that we couldn't finish (Pirlo off the line, Hutton over the bar and McFadden missing a sitter).

End of the day the ref won you the game with that bullshit call (if the shoe was on the other foot mate you would be calling for his head).

How can u possibly say that?

Di Natale's goal to make it 2-0. It was clearly onside, yet the linesmen ruled otherwise.

Ferguson goal to tie. It was clearly offside, yet the linesmen keeps his flag down.

The game would have been out of reach for Scotland if it werent for the ref! Forget about 1-1 in the 90th minute, it should have been 2-0.

We were robbed of a goal, and coceded an illegal 1. Do the match, Italy win, and Scotland bennefitted more from ref mistakes.

Its a simple logical progression of events. All I see is you highlighting 1 pt and ignoring others which happened b4 it, which are extremely relevant to the pt your trying to make.

There is nothing blind about my argument. U are using ref mistakes as an excuse for your loss, when u would have lost anyway without the Chiellini foul.