The truth about C.Ronaldos eternal rumours

[Pennywise]

It all started back in summer 2006:

Christiano Ronaldo told the media that he had a deal with Villar Mir, one of the president candidates in the election.

" I have told my agent that I'm prepered to leave. I want to do it in a easy way. I want to play for Real Madrid and I dream about it"

Yes, Ronaldo has always been a Real Madrid supporter and he has growen up with La Liga. Madrid is -together with ManUtd- the worlds biggest and most skilled football club. They've the economy to buy from the highest level and potensial to win everything.

But Ramon Calderon won the election, and he had other plans and did not sign C.Ronaldo. Then he had to go back to Manchester again and 'say sorry', because noone else had been able to sign him. Barca had already a super team, Chelsea were unlikely and the Italian big guns were all in a difficult time in that periode.

Some people are angry at Real Madrid. I shall not sit here and write that RM is perfect, and that everything the boards do, is right. Because that's not the truth....but compare them to for example Juventus old board....its peanutes.

Real Madrid have not breaken any rules. This club has been a 'superpower' inside football since the day they were born in 1902, and noone can't even find an article about doping (drugs), mafia, blackmoney, game fixing or economic doping. Yes we had the "General Franco" question in the 50s....but I don't think he was behind Madrids all five victories in Europe in that periode....with five different clubs from other nations. If that, things had showen up before or later. But that's an other debate.

All I'm saying is that SIR Alex, ManUtd, C.Ronaldo, Real Madrid and Calderon have to calm down a bit. Its the media who is in charge for this rumours. 98 % is invented up in the media. But is it weird that they link the best player in the world to the biggest football club in the world, when he has several times said he wants a move to Spain? NO.

The truth is also that Real Madrid in the last two years have bought in players like Sneijder, Gago, Higuain, Marcelo, Diarra, Heinze, Saviola, Robben, Pepe, Metzelder, Drenthe, etc..... and its just Robben that the media started in a early progress to link him to Spain, because he was Calderons bate to win the election.

I understand that SIR Alex and AC Milan are afraid to lose their best player to Real Madrid. When I watched an angry Alex Ferguson on TV, I could see fear in his eyes....and he was extreamly angry and pissed off. He should be that on C.Ronaldo first because he has used this case to get better wage, then the spanish media, then the british. Madrid have perhaps throwen some fuel on the fire too, but they have NOT breaken any form for rules. Its NOT illegal to show interest in a footballer.

Hopefully C.Ronaldo will write under a new deal and declear his wish to play for ManUtd pretty soon. Again he has told that he need two weeks to decide everything 100 %, and thats more fuel to the spanish media. I am NOT interested to see Real using £80 mill on him either, even he has been the BEST player in the world for United this season - who have given "The Red Devils" a very deserved and impressed "The Double".

[Pat Murphy]

FIFA Go With Madrid On Ronaldo

FIFA have told Manchester United in no uncertain terms to quit complaining about Real Madrid’s attempts to lure Cristiano Ronaldo from Old Trafford…

The Red Devils lodged an official complaint last week regarding the manner in which los Merengues have approached the Portugal superstar, who spurred his country to victory against the Czech Republic yesterday.

Sir Alex Ferguson and co believe the Spanish giants have been tapping-up their prize winger, with recent revelations suggesting Real have been in contact with Ronaldo and his agent for several months.

But los Blancos have refused to admit to any foul play on their part – and world football’s governing body has sided with the La Liga champions.

A spokesman for the FIFA executive committee said: “United’s chances of getting Real punished are zero.

“I think everyone knows that these things go on in football but proving any wrongdoing is next to impossible.

“Real are very powerful and I don’t think they’ll be too worried about United’s claims.”

Mickey

The sordid saga has not been helped by the man in the middle of it all, as Ronaldo has failed to commit his future one way or the other.

And ex-United winger Gordon Hill believes the 23-year-old's behaviour on and off the pitch has made a mockery of the club and its traditions.

“It looks like there’s been something cooking for months,” he said. “What pees me off is that meanwhile they grab the shirt and they grab the badge. That takes the mickey.”

Getting back to the issue at hand, with FIFA having washed their hands off this subject, and Ronaldo and Madrid keen on the reunion (as apparent from their daily reminders), the chances of Manchester United holding on to the winger are growing slimmer by the day.

Mike Maguire - Goal.com

http://www.goal.com/en/articolo.aspx?contenutoid=732881

[Jager]

I'm not sure if I'm on Ronaldo's side, Real Madrid's side or United's side.

Why is it that every good player in the world is a Real Madrid fan??? And why do Real Madrid feel the need to try and buy every superstar on every other team?

[Pennywise]

Originally Posted by Jager

I'm not sure if I'm on Ronaldo's side, Real Madrid's side or United's side.

Why is it that every good player in the world is a Real Madrid fan??? And why do Real Madrid feel the need to try and buy every superstar on every other team?

* Not me either to be honest. All sides have been careless, but the only 'winner' will be C.Ronaldo and his new wage.


* I don't think every good player in the world is Madridistas, but I think the majority of the best players had liked to play for Real Madrid if they had the chanche to do. Why? Because its Real Madrid, the worlds biggest club who have been a winning club since it started in 1902. Most of the biggest players through the decades have been in the club, and all the players (today aswell) have growen up with Real Madrid as a giant.

Madrid wants (of course) to be the best team in the world, so its not weird that the media and the club is showing interests from the best players. But the last two years, we've seen that the club have bought in players like Pepe, Sneijder, Higuain, Gago, Marcelo, Heinze, Drenthe, etc.... and avoided players like Totti, Ballack, Zlatan, etc....

I'm satisfied with the clubs transfer policy under Schuster/Calderon. That they are interested in a Iberian player (who is the best in the world, and a "Madridista) is not weird...and he is still young, but much is invented up in the media.

[jec1]

Ronaldo is lying! His family wants him to leave, is it in their best interest? Why are they talking for CR? Supposedly From day one he wanted to join Real madrid, it was his dream but there is no question he's stirring up the pot and using his manipulation to persuade a move. What bothers me is how it's making him look like a goof.... Just say it already, You want to move. It would make it that much easier.

[Pennywise]

C.Ronaldo who ??

Real Madrid have Arjen Robben. What a player!

[azzurri]

Originally Posted by Jager

I'm not sure if I'm on Ronaldo's side, Real Madrid's side or United's side.

Why is it that every good player in the world is a Real Madrid fan??? And why do Real Madrid feel the need to try and buy every superstar on every other team?

$$$

[Pennywise]

Cheap point, azzurri, since Real Madrid actually is a club that have a very low wage-policy compared to other top clubs.

For example Ronaldo and Becks went down in wage when they signed for Madrid, since their policy is to have players that really wants to be in the club, and not for the money.

[azzurri]

Bullshit. Cassano made over 4 million euro's a season, and he wasn't even a key player. Cannavaro makes more at Madrid than he did at Juve. The same goes for Zidane. That doesn't sound like a "low wage policy".

Beckam was always towards the top for highest earners, not including endorsements. Plus Madrid are known to take a larger % of their players image rights than most clubs.

I can guarantee u Ronaldo will be making making more if he moves to Madrid, otherwise he will stay at Utd and continue to win trophies.

[Pennywise]

That's right. Madrid takes 50 % of personal income (not actually a benefit for the single player)

Madrid is on the same standard as the other clubs, and like I said, both Becks and Ronaldo earned more in their contracts with United and Internazionale. They had earned more money if they had stayed.

I'm not saying that Madrid pay low-wages, but on the same level as other clubs, and some examples, lower.

Some players will of course get better wages in Real Madrid, but they'll not be overpayed.

I don't know Cassanos exactly wage in Madrid (can check it up, or may you give me the source) but how much did he earned for Roma? And I didn't think there are big contrasts with Cannas wage in Turin and Madrid.

Conslusion is however that -its not just cash- that players wants to go to big clubs like Barca, Madrid, Juve, Inter, or ManUtd..... and Real Madrid have a very good wage-system, and a bit different from their transfer system. Money is of course important, but as I wrote earlier in this thread, the biggest players wants to play in the biggest clubs.


Btw, in 2005, Real Madrid used 47 % of their Expenditure to players wage with players like Zidane, Figo, Carlos, Raul, Ronaldo, Owen, Beckham, Morientes and Samuel in the club. I don't think we can find any other results in other clubs.

In 2002, it were 90 %.

[azzurri]

Cassano's wages with Roma, like all their players except Totti, were poor. They have a salary cap.

The loan deal with Sampdoria this season was a steal for Samp, because they only had to pay 1/3 Cassano's wages.
Serie A Wage Bill

Samp paid 1.2m of his salary this season, meaning he made 3.6 million euros at Madrid. However, according to this, he made 4.5 million euros at Madrid.
Goal.com - Sampdoria - Samp: Cassano Wages Agreed, Now Just Madrid Fee

3.6 or 4.5, he was making alot money and he was never a key member of the squad. The key players will only make more.

According to forbes:
In Pictures: 20 Top-Earning Players - Forbes.com

Cannavaro makes £8.7m a yr, which even if half is salary (£4.3), he never made that at Juve because only 1 player makes £4m a yr at Juve, and thats Buffon.

Juve arent in the same league in terms of wages with any of those clubs u listed. Milan and Inter pay 23.1 and 13.1 mil respectively, more per yr on wages than Juve, which is at least 3-5 players on very good wages. Juve only have 1 player making above £100k a week (Buffon), whereas Utd have Ronaldo, Ferdinand and possibly more making above that amount.

[azzurri]

Originally Posted by Pennywise

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Some people are angry at Real Madrid. I shall not sit here and write that RM is perfect, and that everything the boards do, is right. Because that's not the truth....but compare them to for example Juventus old board....its peanutes.
...

If you're implying our board was guilty of anything, you're wrong. They were never charged with anything. The Juventus board resigned as a sign of good faith towards the investors, to instill confidence. Every large company does this when a scandal hits.

I dont really understand the point of that reference, other than trying to make Madrid look like saints. Juventus never had their debt eliminated by the state buying property off them.

[Pennywise]

Again, I just repeat my former inlays, Real Madrid is one of the biggest clubs in the world and some of the best players are in the club. Comparing to the clubs transfer system, the wage system is on the same level as many other big clubs. La Liga and PL is a couple of steps over Serie A, and so is the wage system.

But the clue here is that its not just cash that brings players to the top clubs, and espesially not Real Madrid, since I've given you examples on big players have went down in wage to go there. Cassano may earned twice in Madrid (even I've not have checked it up with a safe source, but you may have right) The top clubs have actually a benefit with this that players wants to go there and become legend...but what about all the others? Look at Newcastle for example....Michael Owen.....is he in N'castle because he really wanted to play there? In the end its all about the money, but several examples why players have continued with almost the same wage, just to go to a big club. Fernando Gago payed €2 mill from his own account to join Real Madrid.

[Pennywise]

Originally Posted by azzurri

If you're implying our board was guilty of anything, you're wrong. They were never charged with anything. The Juventus board resigned as a sign of good faith towards the investors, to instill confidence. Every large company does this when a scandal hits.

I dont really understand the point of that reference, other than trying to make Madrid look like saints. Juventus never had their debt eliminated by the state buying property off them.

Nice that you're telling me the truth and comment that quote. This was just an example on what I read in here about Real Madrid several times a week. Wrong and invented up stuff by Anti-Madrid people (3-4 of them in here) and they think they're knowing the truth and that Real Madrid is the only bad guy. I'm not saying that Madrid is perfect, but objective views and see the case from two sides is always nice to do.

NB: This was not an 'attack' on you as debater, azzurri, but welcome to my world.


And one of the biggest myths inside football is that the state/government have eliminated Madrids debt. Its actually pretty amazing to see some people still believe in that, even all reports and one of the biggest analyses ever inside football have defended every € from that property ( Who Madrid City bought from the club Real Madrid ) ... and nobody have breaken so much as a rule..and Real Madrid or any persons inside the club have never been judged or accused for doping, match-fixing, economic-doping before or any other seriously claims... even the whole world have their eyes on Real Madrid 24/7.