US okayed mass murder in Korean War

[Jager]

Its funny you mention Italian American, but I don't think Americans would ever elect an Italian.

Americans still associate Italians with the Godfather, Goodfellas etc...

[azzurri]

There are Italian-Americans in American politics, but most of them are wonderbread wops. About as Italian as Condoleezza Rice and Colin Powell are black.

[Jager]

They are only Italian in name, I agree Azzurri.

[LaVecchiaSignora]

ya i do like i said i we expect something to change, we cant keep putting 75 year old white military men into office...

Im not saying hed be a bad president, i just want to know that its more then a front that hes actually going to change shit

[SOMOSBENFICA]

It's funny that they always try to throw around the evil America bullshit..I actually know a veteran who was one of the lucky bastards who survive the Thanksgiving day sneak attack by the Chinese during the Korean War. I'm very sensitive regarding this topic because my father fought in World War two against the Japanese in New Guinea and the Phillipines..He was a Ghost soldier which are the guys that liberated the japanese death camps.

[Mr Brightside]

Originally Posted by Mr Brightside

If it wasn't for the influence of America under Bill Clinton, my country would probably not be at peace now, so I have a lot of respect for America.

That ^^^^ quote is more important to me than anything.

I loved America under Bill Clinton, but George Bush is different.

Clinton visited us and interacted with our people and especially with our kids. We, here in Northern Ireland, admired him.

In saying that, Bush did something that I would have done as American President.

Went to war with terror.

So he must be commended for that.

[Vargas_4]

^ Right.

Bombing hospitals and killing children.

I bet you're so proud.

[sinoy1]

You cant go to war with a VERB....Terror?What are we gonna be governed by 1 big nation under 1 law?The difference between Nazi Germany and USA is the USA know how to cover their shite while Germany didnt*note the sarcasm*.Yeah out of line but dont go spreading around that US is an angelic being sent by God to bring peace when they've done more damage to the world then good.When they've done more seperating then unity.Yeah lets all be selfish and worry about our own.Curse whats happened to us and Bless what good they've done to some.But FFS to Praise the US?It certainly is a fucked up world.Lives arent easily justified by the minimal good,regardless of the politics and money gained because of it,of one's nation has done but the overall.Its not the Public I hate its the administration as LVS has said.

(im sorry if ive offended anybody but I think i speak for the countries that USA has shattered countries and driven them to madness. along with mine and say you can take your giant UNCLE SAM poster and shove it.Everything in my post was directed to the government not its people)

[Vargas_4]

^

[LaVecchiaSignora]

The thing that i guess bothers me the most is that you guys refer to it as being "THE USA" that has caused all the damage...like ive said before its the the USA thats doing it its Bush...id say that about 90% of american citizens agree with the rest of the world...i heard that bushs approval rating was below 20
% which means that only 20% of people in this country thought he was a good president...and i bet that at least 10% of those 20% of people agreed with him just because they are die hard republicans...not that they actually agree with what hes doing...

Id appreciate if you would refer to the "BUSH ADMINISTRATION" as the people causing destruction and no the USA because it implies that its the american citizens who are causing the damage or at least implies that we are fine with the damage or condoning it in some way

[Mr Brightside]

I just based my judgement on how the USA treated my country. They treated us well and still do and under Clinton they helped bring peace to my country.

As for the war on terror, when I saw the pictures of 9/11, I was horrified, but more importantly I was angry. So to hunt these people down is vital. There's no use sitting over there in America and here in Britain saying that it was terrible and these people should be caught and jailed. It doesn't work like that. These bastards need hunted down and killed, and if that means casualties of war, including women and children, so be it.

War is war.

[Vargas_4]

^ You're so full of shit that i ain't gonna bother debating with you.

You go and say that you were horrified by the pictures of 9/11. OK. Fine. I can accept that. It's not pretty to see such things.

But if you took a moment and look up and see all the damage, all the blood, all the killings USA has done for the last 60 years...

You'd have another point of view on things.

[sinoy1]

Let him go Vargas...he's so far up in the US ass he doesnt realize that he's as blind as a bat.Sure they saved or helped your nation...what about the others that they've destroyed through money laundering,investing in tribal warfare,bringing in their own men for the nation's politics and simply just denying them of any rights what so ever.

9/11 you want to talk about 9/11....what about the fucking millions of others the US killed?Now im not justifying 9/11 but at what fucking cost are you going to ignore the rest of the world?What they helped your nation and now your going to give them a free pass?Did you stop and think about why they helped your nation?Did you realize that they want UK to be a safe place since they wanted Britain to be their closest and trusted allies and thus had to stop whatever was going on in Northern Ireland.Again irrational and not serious but if you can make retarded claims like that then so can I.....Im done with this shit....its way too depressing and ignorant.

war is war he says......fucking infuriating.....

[LaVecchiaSignora]

the other problem i have is, that you all act like the USA is resposible for the most deaths or innocent people...when in actuality it is kind of just the most publicized...

What about...Nazi germany...and the holocust...and the killing of 6,000,000

What about..the genocide in rawanda in the mid 90's of 800,000 deaths

What about former yougoslavia and the serbs which were practicing "ethnic cleansing" that took place during the 1992-1995 Bosnian War-200,000 deaths

What about the killing and raping and mistreatment of millions in darfur...and the death of over 400,000 innocent people...and counting!!!

What about the mistreatment and killing of innocent people in china in tibet

What about pol pot in cambodia who killed 25% of his population some 2,000,000 people

What about in In December of 1937, the Japanese Imperial Army marched into China's capital city of Nanking and proceeded to murder 300,000 out of 600,000 civilians

What about Joseph Stalin, leader of the Soviet Union who force famine in the 30's which killed 7,000,000 people

What about The first genocide of the 20th Century occurred when two million Armenians living in Turkey were eliminated from their historic homeland through forced deportations and massacres. - 1,500,000 deaths...

I mean if you want me to keep diging and doing research im positive i can find more which was much worse then anything the US government ever did.

I guarentee i could find something on almost every country

You think the british back in the day were so innocent you dont think the royal army and the past kings killed thousands even millions

You dont think the ancient romans and other ancient culters killed millions to have such hugh reigns all over europe...

It is in everyones history, it just happens to be apart of our present...so thats what everyone focuses on.....

[hk_on99]

Originally Posted by LaVecchiaSignora

the other problem i have is, that you all act like the USA is resposible for the most deaths or innocent people...when in actuality it is kind of just the most publicized...

What about...Nazi germany...and the holocust...and the killing of 6,000,000

What about..the genocide in rawanda in the mid 90's of 800,000 deaths

What about former yougoslavia and the serbs which were practicing "ethnic cleansing" that took place during the 1992-1995 Bosnian War-200,000 deaths

What about the killing and raping and mistreatment of millions in darfur...and the death of over 400,000 innocent people...and counting!!!

What about the mistreatment and killing of innocent people in china in tibet

What about pol pot in cambodia who killed 25% of his population some 2,000,000 people

What about in In December of 1937, the Japanese Imperial Army marched into China's capital city of Nanking and proceeded to murder 300,000 out of 600,000 civilians

What about Joseph Stalin, leader of the Soviet Union who force famine in the 30's which killed 7,000,000 people

What about The first genocide of the 20th Century occurred when two million Armenians living in Turkey were eliminated from their historic homeland through forced deportations and massacres. - 1,500,000 deaths...

I mean if you want me to keep diging and doing research im positive i can find more which was much worse then anything the US government ever did.

I guarentee i could find something on almost every country

You think the british back in the day were so innocent you dont think the royal army and the past kings killed thousands even millions

You dont think the ancient romans and other ancient culters killed millions to have such hugh reigns all over europe...

It is in everyones history, it just happens to be apart of our present...so thats what everyone focuses on.....

Just because there are worse examples of infringements on human rights doesn't make the US right. I think most people can accept that these unfortunate events are a part of any country's history, but a lot of people find it hypocritical that the US champions freedom, human rights, etc.. when they are also perpetrators.