Thoughts on Armageddon - Page 4 - TalkSoccer

Podolski · 11-10-2007, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jager

This is where I have my problem, there could be a "God", but the people of the time could of not understood concepts such as evolution or the planet being 3 billion years old, or that dinosaurs existed sixty five million years ago.

the church doesn't reject the theory of evolution and all that
science answers, ' what kind of world do we live in?'
religion answers ' why is there a universe at all?'
apparently, anyway

Mr Brightside · 13-10-2007, 05:07 PM

If god exists, like I have said many times before, we should be living in a pain-free world.

If god is so great, why can't he wipe out pain ?

I'll tell you why. Because he does NOT exist.

Post all you want. Claim this and claim that, but your god has never existed.

I have 2 friends who became christians for a few years. They aren't anymore. Why?

Because they admitted that they had psychological problems and started believing in god as a way out of it. When they knew what their problem was, they were fine.

I rest my case.

Don't get me wrong. I wish there was a god, but there so obviously isn't. So just get on with your lives.

And dread the day when that big rock hits us.

Candide · 16-10-2007, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Smooth Mike Ale

We are all sinners who deserve eternal hellfire.People love to spring the "God so loved the world" verse and compare diseases to it.The fact is you people don't read!You aren't looking at the context of this verse.First of all Jesus is talking to a Teacher of Israel,He saying "God doesn't just love the Jews,he loves people of all nationalities."You're probably saying:What the hell is he on about?The thing is that in this time God had only ever revealed Himself to the Jewish people,so someone saying "God so loved the world" would be astonishing and radical to a Jewish mindset at that time.Now God so loves the world true,but man also has responsibility,God demands mans obedience.He's not just letting it come easy for man.

This is the question I pose to you: Do you ever wonder what God requires of you?Do you think He's just this big bearded fellow in the sky who serves the purpose of satisfying all your desires and no diseases,happy clappy ect?Don't you ever think that we mankind as a whole deserve NOTHING for all we have sinned against our fellow men,not to mention the Living God?The fact that a remnant of people are saved for eternity shows that God is a God of mercy and much grace.But He also a God of justice,and mankind has not suffered an inkling of what it deserves for all it's sins.

We deserve nothing,and what God deserves we in our own power could NEVER give,all thanks be to Him for giving us the absolute assistance.

There was once a very wise and clever man that said of your 'we are all sinners':

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Originally Posted by Voltaire on Baptism

How strange an idea—that a pot of water should wash away every crime! Now, all children are baptized because an idea no less absurd supposes them all criminal; they are all saved until they have the use of reason and the power to become guilty! Cut their throats, then, as quickly as possible, to insure their entrance into paradise. This is so just a consequence that there was once a devout sect that went about poisoning and killing all newly-baptized infants. These devout persons reasoned with perfect correctness, saying: “We do these little innocents the greatest possible good; we prevent them from being wicked and unhappy in this life and we give them life eternal.”

**Jager** · 16-10-2007, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Brightside

If god exists, like I have said many times before, we should be living in a pain-free world.

If god is so great, why can't he wipe out pain ?

I'll tell you why. Because he does NOT exist.

Post all you want. Claim this and claim that, but your god has never existed.

I have 2 friends who became christians for a few years. They aren't anymore. Why?

Because they admitted that they had psychological problems and started believing in god as a way out of it. When they knew what their problem was, they were fine.

I rest my case.

Don't get me wrong. I wish there was a god, but there so obviously isn't. So just get on with your lives.

And dread the day when that big rock hits us.

..though this doesn't disprove that God exists or not. Not really sure where you are going with this?

Mr Brightside · 19-10-2007, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Jager

..though this doesn't disprove that God exists or not. Not really sure where you are going with this?

You nor I can prove that there is a God. Nobody on here will prove that.

My point is that 2 friends of mine tried the Christian thing out. They admit that they loved it, but that neither God nor Jesus actually came into their lives. It was all in their heads. They believed that it happened, but then admitted that it didn't.

My point is that God is a figment of people's imagination.

**sinoy1** · 19-10-2007, 10:10 PM

Well then the same can be said about a headache....can you show me your headache? no its in your head...but you certainly know/think that your head is hurting but you cant physically show people that.

You're old enough to make you're own decisions but by god over 80% of the world's population beliefs in a higher being(s)....whose to say you're right and we're wrong?

Personally I think its more important on weather or not your a good person in general.

**Jager** · 20-10-2007, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Brightside

You nor I can prove that there is a God. Nobody on here will prove that.

My point is that 2 friends of mine tried the Christian thing out. They admit that they loved it, but that neither God nor Jesus actually came into their lives. It was all in their heads. They believed that it happened, but then admitted that it didn't.

My point is that God is a figment of people's imagination.

Unfortuantely, that doesn't prove that God doesn't exist. You can twist as many times as you like. You either believe or not. There is no way to prove or disprove. And unfortunately, your friend's experience is just that, and is not the end all.

God could very well exist, but could of been creator that got things started. We just don't know.

God could be a super alien race or higher power.

We just don't know.

Mr Brightside · 20-10-2007, 03:33 PM

I appreciate both your comments, but be honest with yourselves.

Do you seriously believe that your "soul" transfers to somewhere beautiful ? If you do, then you will have everlasting life I suppose.

But I have always thought that those who believe in their God are afraid of death. Because death means an end to the life that they have enjoyed. We all die. We are here for a while and then we die. End of story.

IMO, we don't go anywhere except into a coffin and into the ground or furnace.

But who am I or anybody else to say what happens when we die ? Because we do not know, do we ? Yes we have idiots tell us that they have come back from the dead etc. We have 80% of the world's population (in sinoy's opinion) telling us that we go to heaven. How do they know ? Have they been there ? Or have they just read those books that we call the Bible and the Qu'ran ?

It is an abyss. Nobody knows and it's all down to opinion.

And mine is that when you die, that's it. No heaven nor hell. Just peace.

**sinoy1** · 20-10-2007, 04:02 PM

Not heaven but an afterlife.Weather thats Re-incarnation or heaven/hell is totally up to the person.

It's your opinion mate.Weather you choose to believe in a higher being or life after death is totally up to you.

EDIT: Do you believe in a spirit?That theres some form or essence that makes you...you?Sorry about the wording but I just woke up

TheDevil · 20-10-2007, 06:20 PM

there is positive "energy" in the sense that we don't completely die
humans give off an "aura" it has been proven as opposed to other living things
some people say its the brain but we don't know
scientists don't know
nobody knows

Mr Brightside · 21-10-2007, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sinoy1

EDIT: Do you believe in a spirit?That theres some form or essence that makes you...you?Sorry about the wording but I just woke up

My parents made me. And no, I don't believe in spirits.

Unless they are in liquid form !

**Jager** · 22-10-2007, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Brightside

I appreciate both your comments, but be honest with yourselves.

Do you seriously believe that your "soul" transfers to somewhere beautiful ? If you do, then you will have everlasting life I suppose.

But I have always thought that those who believe in their God are afraid of death. Because death means an end to the life that they have enjoyed. We all die. We are here for a while and then we die. End of story.

IMO, we don't go anywhere except into a coffin and into the ground or furnace.

But who am I or anybody else to say what happens when we die ? Because we do not know, do we ? Yes we have idiots tell us that they have come back from the dead etc. We have 80% of the world's population (in sinoy's opinion) telling us that we go to heaven. How do they know ? Have they been there ? Or have they just read those books that we call the Bible and the Qu'ran ?

It is an abyss. Nobody knows and it's all down to opinion.

And mine is that when you die, that's it. No heaven nor hell. Just peace.

Your flopping around like a fish that I caught off my scooner off the coast for crying out loud.

The question was "God", not the fine details of religion.

The exsistence of God has not been proven or disproven. That is the question.

As to what you believe or not is beside the point.

I believe that Mr Brightside is an idiot for example, if its true or not is beside the point, since it is my opinion, and NO its not based on fact. Understand?

Also this non sense about death, how old are you?

If you under 25, then there is really no point in continuing this conversation.

Since you only seem to put down people that don't agree with you, or belittle those that don't share the same thought process as yourself.

Mr Brightside · 23-10-2007, 09:54 PM

Im older than 25. And you will note that my comments are opinion. Not fact.

Im entitled to them. As are you.

I'm older than 25, so continue Jager......................

Mr Brightside · 03-11-2007, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Jager

If you under 25, then there is really no point in continuing this conversation.

I'm older than 25.

So continue then .......................

**sinoy1** · 04-11-2007, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Brightside

My parents made me. And no, I don't believe in spirits.

Unless they are in liquid form !

Although its not right of me to say...let alone on a internet site...then how do u explain demons and how to banish them from bodies.Religion does that.....THROW SOME HOLY WATER! i hated that movie.damn scary.