Manchester United - EUROPEAN AND LEAGUE CHAMPIONS 2007/08

[kyan]

Originally Posted by hanuma

Heskey would be a good start

Yeah this is ridiculous, since when are players from other teams allowed to score against Chelsea? It's not fair, if you ask me it's ruining the league. IMO it would be a lot better if Chelsea were just given 114 points per season, that'd make things a lot more interesting, because then any games they play wouldn't even matter, and it wouldn't matter if the opposition scored. Because the point of football is that only one team is allowed to score, right?

then the league for deciding goal difference would be the decider. I appreciate the fact that you won it on points in the end, but had the inevitability of GD not been there, things would have been quite different.

Correction, things could have been different. But then again if I were a Brazilian transvestite prostitute things could have been different too.

I suppose now is as good a time as any to really question the legitimacy of goal difference, seeing as it basically shows how you pounded on the lesser teams more frequently, which is rather shallow. Head to head record would have been better, that was also a tie of course.

Should we just ignore the fact that against the big 4, United won 4, drew 1 and lost 1?

While Chelsea managed 2 wins, 2 draws and 2 defeats against the top 4.

Just to help you, that means out of the top 4, United would have 13 points out of a possible 18, while Chelsea would have 8.

Let's also keep in mind that when Chelsea beat United, it was a United without their 2 top scorers, in a relatively unimportant game in comparison with the 2nd leg v Barcelona.

Well done to Utd though, deserved it in the end.

Well thank fuck for that. Although it's a bit like saying "fuck off, no offence though", hardly seems like you mean it.

Originally Posted by hanuma

On Match of the Day they might, or against the cannon fodder.

As shown above, it's more a case of Chelsea being in the title race at all because of their consistent ability to beat (not pound, though) the weaker teams, while struggling against the tougher opposition.


And thanks for the pics Nani17

[Sven]

Originally Posted by kyan

Let's also keep in mind that when Chelsea beat United, it was a United without their 2 top scorers, in a relatively unimportant game in comparison with the 2nd leg v Barcelona.

lets keep in mind when you beat us with 10 men from set peices we didn't have Drogba,Carvalho and Lampard only just had a new manager.

cmon now please. only beat what's in front of you.

As shown above, it's more a case of Chelsea being in the title race at all because of their consistent ability to beat (not pound, though) the weaker teams, while struggling against the tougher opposition.

despite us having the best away record, unbeaten at home, lost the fewest games, I think your view on us is pretty poor. Fact our third and 2nd choice keeper played started 13 games in EPL this year shows how under strength we were at sometimes.

Our abillity to not keep on to leads your abillity to come back from one goal down , was key to your victory this year.

Anyway don't get upset, you won the title., be happy!

[hanuma]

Originally Posted by kyan

Because the point of football is that only one team is allowed to score, right?

Hey I'm just saying he deserves a little credit from Utd. Just like we would have had to thank Roque Santa Cruz.

Correction, things could have been different. But then again if I were a Brazilian transvestite prostitute things could have been different too.

I somehow doubt we'd see the side simply give up in the last 10 minutes if they knew the title was still possible.

Should we just ignore the fact that against the big 4, United won 4, drew 1 and lost 1?

Not at all, but we should note that not a single one of those games saw Utd piss over anyone, dominate the game from start to finish, or do any of the things we're so used to having rammed down our throats by the media. Good team, good football, not some mythical xi cut from God's special cloth.

As shown above, it's more a case of Chelsea being in the title race at all because of their consistent ability to beat (not pound, though) the weaker teams, while struggling against the tougher opposition.

Quite, but that doesn't change what the title MIGHT have been decided on, which should be changed for the future. And obviously it wouldn't have been a big deal facing Chelsea in a playoff, considering such a convincing record against the top 4.

[kyan]

Originally Posted by hanuma

Hey I'm just saying he deserves a little credit from Utd. Just like we would have had to thank Roque Santa Cruz.

Not really... he's just doing his job. Obviously we're not going to hate him for it but he doesn't deserve a Winner's medal for it.

Originally Posted by hanuma

I somehow doubt we'd see the side simply give up in the last 10 minutes if they knew the title was still possible.

I don't see why that's particularly important...

Not at all, but we should note that not a single one of those games saw Utd piss over anyone, dominate the game from start to finish, or do any of the things we're so used to having rammed down our throats by the media. Good team, good football, not some mythical xi cut from God's special cloth.

Well, there was the game United beat Liverpool 3-0, and in the FA Cup we spanked Arsenal 4-0... But I guess that's just not good enough

[dukeofdavinci]

but we should note that not a single one of those games saw Utd piss over anyone, dominate the game from start to finish, or do any of the things we're so used to having rammed down our throats by the media. Good team, good football, not some mythical xi cut from God's special cloth.

now thats utter bullshit!!.does it always have to be about taking control, pissing all over but a win doesnt count for good performance.i wonder other then 3 pts what for does a club play for??to please a judge like in figure skating???

we shown our class on those matches and we won.simple as that.same credit to ur lot when we lost at the bridge.u guys came on top of us, and got the job done.

[dukeofdavinci]

Stat Attack: 2007/08

Here we cast an eye over the statistics that matter from the Reds' championship-winning 2007/08 league season...

First goal: Paul Scholes v Portsmouth (15/08/07)
Last goal: Ryan Giggs v Wigan Athletic (11/05/08)
Most goals: Cristiano Ronaldo (31)
Number of goal scorers: 13 (plus two own goals)
First half goals: 32
Second half goals: 42
Goals scored by substitutes: 6

First yellow card: Nemanja Vidic v Portsmouth (15/08/07)
Last yellow card: Wayne Rooney v Wigan Athletic (11/05/08)
First red card: Cristiano Ronaldo v Portsmouth (15/08/07)
Last red card: Nani v West Ham United (03/05/08)
Most bookings: Wes Brown, Wayne Rooney (8)
Penalties won: 8
Penalties conceded: 1

Most appearances: Wes Brown (34 starts, 2 substitute apps)
Most minutes on the pitch: Rio Ferdinand (3050 minutes)
Most sub appearances: John O’Shea (18)
First substitution: Nani for Wayne Rooney v Reading (12/08/07)
Last substitution: Ryan Giggs for Ji-sung Park v Wigan Athletic (11/05/08)
Number of players used: 25

Biggest win: 6-0 v Newcastle (12/01/08)
Biggest home crowd: 76,013 v West Ham United (03/05/07)
Biggest away crowd: 60,161 v Arsenal (03/11/07)

some stats on our season.i say we still did way better then last season as some who have claimed otherwise.

[Forza_Roma]

I've avoided congratulating MNU fans for the obvious reasons ....but credit to MNU...awesome season.

Congratulations guys!!!

[hanuma]

does it always have to be about taking control, pissing all over but a win doesnt count for good performance.

No, of course not, I was making a point about the hyperbole this season.

It's also amusing that after two consecutive titles nobody is asking if Utd are bad for the game, all showing just how ludicrously bias our press is.

[kyan]

Originally Posted by hanuma

No, of course not, I was making a point about the hyperbole this season.

It's also amusing that after two consecutive titles nobody is asking if Utd are bad for the game, all showing just how ludicrously bias our press is.

I don't think so, most of the BBC are Liverpool fans, and the media hates Ronaldo, they think he's a fantastic player but a c*nt.

It's not like United only get good press.

[hanuma]

I'd say it's the majority of people that think that about Ronaldo, not just Liverpool fans that work for the BBC.

Of course UTD get some bad press, but that's because there are plenty of shit journalists. It's the bias that I don't see, at least not to the same extent anyway. I suppose that's your reward for 20 years of sustained success.

[dukeofdavinci]

It's not like United only get good press.

and good draws either.we get the fair share of flanks from the press just as the other clubs do.

[Vargas_4]

In the end, you obtained both titles.

Congratulations.