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Old 29-05-2008, 09:09 AM   #121 (permalink)
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2) Not at all tough to pass instead of shooting from 35 yards when Tevez and Rooney are free. He's a winger, he's supposed to be a creator. That's what he was bought for. But because he prefers to play for himself people like Rooney have had to be sacrificed. Rooney's been forced to play on the right wing far too much because Ronaldo refuses to do his job.

Now any sense and you'd know that you tend to pass the ball to your leading goalscorer a touch more. Ronaldo is the man with the goals, so we'l make him the man with the ball too. And clearly, any "sacrifices" have been worth it. You simply don't understand fluent football, where chances can be made for players who don't have the number 9 on the back of their shirts. But you can hardly be blamed for that can you?

United needed a goalscorer, Portugal needed a goalscorer. Ronaldo stepped up on both demands. And because he stepped up, he's the best in the world. Your jealousy should bring a smile to the face of any United fan, or Portuguese person.
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Old 29-05-2008, 09:49 AM   #122 (permalink)
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What the fuck would you know?? Go jump in a fountain and celebrate trophies won by a team you've never seen play.

wow, now if you were already got out of ur mothers womb by then u would have seen me at old trafford, but then again u might be still sucking ur mothers tits then.and also u wont dare to step out of that "kop of shit "
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Old 29-05-2008, 10:46 AM   #123 (permalink)
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Let's be real here guys, The Rule is right. If you don't play football in a certain way then it's not right. You're not allowed to be innovative, if you don't play 4-4-2 with a 6 foot something striker heading balls crossed from your wide-men then that's the equivalent to cheating really.
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Old 29-05-2008, 02:58 PM   #124 (permalink)
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You do sound rather bitter old man, it's not helping your case.

Bitter ? Man you really dont know me at all. I know there are alot of people out there that dont like CR. Im fine with that. I just dont like it when people think make personal attacks for no reason other than stirring things up. Ive said my piece. I will leave it at that.
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Old 29-05-2008, 03:03 PM   #125 (permalink)
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I don't think that post was meant to you. I think he was talking to The Rule.
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I don't think that post was meant to you. I think he was talking to The Rule.

Ooops. Sorry As soon as someone mentions Old guy, I think they are talking about me. Sorry again. My mistake
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Old 29-05-2008, 05:58 PM   #127 (permalink)
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Ooops. Sorry As soon as someone mentions Old guy, I think they are talking about me. Sorry again. My mistake

i think you are not alone on the "old guy" department mate.
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Old 30-05-2008, 02:01 AM   #128 (permalink)
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Let's be real here guys, The Rule is right. If you don't play football in a certain way then it's not right. You're not allowed to be innovative, if you don't play 4-4-2 with a 6 foot something striker heading balls crossed from your wide-men then that's the equivalent to cheating really.


Did i say that? No i did not.

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Old 30-05-2008, 02:02 AM   #129 (permalink)
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wow, now if you were already got out of ur mothers womb by then u would have seen me at old trafford, but then again u might be still sucking ur mothers tits then.and also u wont dare to step out of that "kop of shit "

Been to Castle Greyskull at least once every year for the last 14. Will be there again every year til i die.

You on the other hand have never been off your sofa and away from your sky box.
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Old 30-05-2008, 02:04 AM   #130 (permalink)
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Now any sense and you'd know that you tend to pass the ball to your leading goalscorer a touch more. Ronaldo is the man with the goals, so we'l make him the man with the ball too. And clearly, any "sacrifices" have been worth it. You simply don't understand fluent football, where chances can be made for players who don't have the number 9 on the back of their shirts. But you can hardly be blamed for that can you?

United needed a goalscorer, Portugal needed a goalscorer. Ronaldo stepped up on both demands. And because he stepped up, he's the best in the world. Your jealousy should bring a smile to the face of any United fan, or Portuguese person.


Jealous?? I wouldn't take Ronaldo over Torres, or Gerrard. Both are far better.

And while you may think that the sacrifices and regression of Wayne Rooney now, we'll discuss this again in two years when Ronaldo has gone off to Madrid and Rooney hasn't been able to step up having been held back for too long.
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Old 30-05-2008, 08:44 AM   #131 (permalink)
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Did i say that? No i did not.

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Yeah that's pretty much what it seems like:

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Answer - Winger

What is a winger job description?

Creates chances for strikers, provide width to attacks and make crosses, trackback and help fullbacks in defensive situations.


Ronaldo does none of these things.

Being selfish is not in a wingers job description.

When you say job description you're assuming that he's supposed to play as an orthodox winger, he's not. Using that as an argument to put him down is weak.

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Comments like these saying he's not considered a complete player and therefore he's not a top player despite being much more productive overall than a 20-20 player.
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Old 30-05-2008, 06:40 PM   #132 (permalink)
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Been to Castle Greyskull at least once every year for the last 14. Will be there again every year til i die.

You on the other hand have never been off your sofa and away from your sky box.

guess what, your not the only one, in fact i have been there for the past 20 years and got to say it feels great to see the scouse getting kicked in their ass every time.

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Old 30-05-2008, 10:39 PM   #133 (permalink)
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I feel that if Ronaldo was to leave it would not be in his best interest. While he is a great player if he was to go to a team like Real Madrid I don't think that he would be as affective. At Man Utd he has Rooney who works so hard behind the scenes to help get Ronaldo most of his chances, at Real Ruud and Raul would never be as self less as Rooney, they are both out and out strikers who look to wingers to set them up they would never work so hard, like Rooney, to set Ronaldo up. Of course Ronaldo sets up his own goals as well but Rooney imo is an important factor to his succes.

Also on the whole Real saga I personally think they are not fully to blame, what they say is if he wants to leave all he needs to do is contact them and they will do their utmost to try and sign him. However if in every other report he changes his mind, then Real will get mixed signals. No doubt the press will twist his words, but he should just choose Man Utd or Real atm and at interviews specifically tell the press he doesn't or does want to leave so as to not cause confusion.

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Old 01-06-2008, 06:32 PM   #134 (permalink)
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All 42 baby:

(it's not embedding so here's the link: YouTube - Cristiano Ronaldo *All 42 Goals* - Season 2007/2008 )

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Old 01-06-2008, 08:37 PM   #135 (permalink)
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Jealous?? I wouldn't take Ronaldo over Torres, or Gerrard. Both are far better.

So Torres and Gerard are both better players? so when was the last time either of them scored 42 goals in 48 appearances at the top level? you'll have to remind me,

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And while you may think that the sacrifices and regression of Wayne Rooney now, we'll discuss this again in two years when Ronaldo has gone off to Madrid and Rooney hasn't been able to step up having been held back for too long.


if i remember correctly didnt you make a similar prediction concerning Ronaldo,in a thread a few years back,something along the lines of him being a one trick pony who will never be good enough to make it at the top level,or words to that effect anyway,i cant find the post in question to quote it,but my point is that i dont think your predictions are up to much so if you dont mind ill give this one the same amount of credibility as that one was worth,none at all.
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