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Old 29-09-2003, 06:21   #1 (permalink)
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Default Diego Forlan

i'm not one to whinge but it's got to the point where almost everything breaks up the moment he touches the ball.

and his constant desire to shoot weakly from 25 yards is also growing tiresome.

i struggle to believe that there aren't 3 or 4 lads from the reserves who'd do a better job.
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Old 29-09-2003, 06:41   #2 (permalink)
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i'd say give nardiello a chance, forland was awfull against leicester and even though i've had high hopes for him, i can't really see him developing anymore than he's already done (IMO) he looses the ball too much as he's constantly taking on players... if he had gone past them it weouldn't have been a problem but 9 outa' 10 times he looses it... finishing is poor and he ALLWAYS seem to do the oposite of what he should have done

he's long passes has improoved, but against leicester he just gave it away, every pass got cut out and every cross went to a leicester player(there were little activity in the box after he came on which didn't help him...)
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Old 29-09-2003, 12:19   #3 (permalink)
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I'm not one to criticise singled out players at United, but I must agree with both of you on this one. Yes, Forlan was awful against Leicester, I've defo seen him play better games. He seems too unsure what to do with the ball when he gets it. And there were a few times on saturday I feel he should have passed the ball through to Ruud instead of trying a shot himself. It seems he's desperate to show the gaffer what he can accomplish, maybe that's his downfall ops: He shud relax more.
I don't believe putting on Nardiello will make any difference though. I've seen Forlan and nardiello play together in the reserve games and there is no doubt that Forlan is the better of the two on the day. I believe the difference between playing first team football and reserve football is HUGE. I did'nt think much of Fletcher on Saturday either, I feel his skills have been blown into porportion by the fans. But that's my opinion. I feel Ronaldo is a much more talented player than Fletcher (be free to argument on that one)

No, we need a new striker when Forlan aint doing it for us. What would happen if Scholes needed a hernia op after all and Ruud got injured against Stuttgart???? Ole is already out as well.

United would be a depleted side at best.......
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Old 29-09-2003, 12:23   #4 (permalink)
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Nah, Nardiello is better than Forlan, the thing with diego is that he shows little flashes of how good he can be,but just doesnt do it anywhere near as regularly as he should do.
it must be frustrating for the bloke though,he scored as many as ruud in preseason,against some quality opposition,but seems to struggle to do it consistently.

whatever, diego just aint good enough to put on the shirt...end off...
just how many chances are we gonna give the lad?? Bad though as well we got a lack of striker, just got to pray sake Ruud stay injury-free. Scholes won't need an operation since Fergie has now played him.
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Old 29-09-2003, 14:14   #5 (permalink)
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I'm not one to criticise singled out players at United, but I must agree with both of you on this one. Yes, Forlan was awful against Leicester, I've defo seen him play better games. He seems too unsure what to do with the ball when he gets it. And there were a few times on saturday I feel he should have passed the ball through to Ruud instead of trying a shot himself. It seems he's desperate to show the gaffer what he can accomplish, maybe that's his downfall He shud relax more.
I don't believe putting on Nardiello will make any difference though. I've seen Forlan and nardiello play together in the reserve games and there is no doubt that Forlan is the better of the two on the day. I believe the difference between playing first team football and reserve football is HUGE. I did'nt think much of Fletcher on Saturday either, I feel his skills have been blown into porportion by the fans. But that's my opinion. I feel Ronaldo is a much more talented player than Fletcher (be free to argument on that one)

we need a player that can score more and be more concistant, i didn't say we should play nardiello from the start every match, just that we should give him a chance after his performance in the reserves

as for fletcher i disagree with u, he had a good game where he shoced tha he could cross and play good passes, take on players and hold up the ball while under pressure(he's stronger than he looks) i also wouldn't compare him to ronaldo as he may be one of the biggest talents i've seen... a diferent type of player too, fletcher is a very talented player, even though he's not a ronaldo
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Forlan is my fav player. Leave him alone !
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atleast u're not a scouser supporter than :danc:
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Old 29-09-2003, 15:05   #8 (permalink)
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I'm not one to criticise singled out players at United, but I must agree with both of you on this one. Yes, Forlan was awful against Leicester, I've defo seen him play better games. He seems too unsure what to do with the ball when he gets it. And there were a few times on saturday I feel he should have passed the ball through to Ruud instead of trying a shot himself. It seems he's desperate to show the gaffer what he can accomplish, maybe that's his downfall He shud relax more.
I don't believe putting on Nardiello will make any difference though. I've seen Forlan and nardiello play together in the reserve games and there is no doubt that Forlan is the better of the two on the day. I believe the difference between playing first team football and reserve football is HUGE. I did'nt think much of Fletcher on Saturday either, I feel his skills have been blown into porportion by the fans. But that's my opinion. I feel Ronaldo is a much more talented player than Fletcher (be free to argument on that one)

we need a player that can score more and be more concistant, i didn't say we should play nardiello from the start every match, just that we should give him a chance after his performance in the reserves

as for fletcher i disagree with u, he had a good game where he shoced tha he could cross and play good passes, take on players and hold up the ball while under pressure(he's stronger than he looks) i also wouldn't compare him to ronaldo as he may be one of the biggest talents i've seen... a diferent type of player too, fletcher is a very talented player, even though he's not a ronaldo

Yes, he's not a Ronaldo I can agree to that. But to me he looks more like a squad player than an exciting prospect like Giggs, becks and Ronaldo. He reminds me of Chadwick. I had high hopes for him as well. Although he's not doing bad at Burnley(???) he quickly showed he was not United material. I'm just worried that's the case with Fletcher as well. I must admit he did'nt play badly, but after listening to numerous United fans praise him into the sky I think I must have had higher hopes than i shud 8) He still has lots of time to prove what he's worth though :thumbsup:

We'll just wait and see what the future brings the lad :-P
I'm keeping my fingers crossed for him :danc:
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Old 29-09-2003, 19:29   #9 (permalink)
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i think the problem with forlan is, ferguson is stubborn, he will continue to play forlan to prove to the fans that he waas rite in buying him for utds sake he needs to admit he wasnt the buy he thort he wud be and sell him, theres so many better forwards available. a similar situation happened last yr with veron or 'seba' as ferguson called him, evryone cud see he wasnt living up to his rep however ferguson kept playing him
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I think diego should be tried out wide right...i think he mores of a threat with his pace out wide. Ronaldo needsa this season to bed in, Bellion needs another 2 in my opinion, Kleberson isnt really a wide player either so id give him a try out there. It would take pressure of him scoring wise any way. Utd are more effective i think with Scholes playing in the hole and it will come good in Europe i think. Another permutation is to play him wide left, Giggs moves into the hole and Scholesy moves into midfield again. I know he has dissapointed but he can come good i think, he has the attitude and the work rate to come good, even the talent.
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Forlan is a pretty decent player...
Too bad he hasn't been performing too well in Man U
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Give it time all, i know he may lack a bit of finishing but he is one player who always gives 100 percent all the time. I know all current united players do the same but forlan is different.
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i'm afraid the simple facts are he's too shite to play for united.

his attitude is bang on, but he lacks the ability.

put me on the pitch and my attitude would be right, wouldn't mean i was good enough though.

more strike power must be found ASAP.
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I dont think we lack too much strike power, we have ole, diego does get important goals.

Also he is a massive crowd favourite. He is still learning and with the lack of starts he gets you cant expect him to be great all the time. I just think give it time as he netted two past the scousers last year and a winner against chelski. Look how important those goals proved to be.
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Have to agree with you MUFC. Forlan played an important part in the league last year and there can be no doubt that he has the ability to do well here. Let's not give up on him so soon I think he might prove the doubters wrong. :thumbsup:
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