35 million "Kitty" for Juve to spend.... - Page 3 - TalkSoccer

Jose_Mourinho · 02-05-2006, 06:35 PM

you're going to need more money than that if you want to build your team. I like Juve but they are too old. They need to buy young. And if you're looking for a player to help liven the mid field how about Emre, he wants out of Newcastle and back to Italy, Will he be good??

**Jager** · 02-05-2006, 06:55 PM

In my opinion, knowing them. They would never admit it, however I think Juve is resigned to the fact that they are in a mini rebuilding mode.

The real question is whether Cap will stay or will he go?

Jose_Mourinho · 02-05-2006, 06:57 PM

He should stay and attempt a challenge. What rebuilding has started I mean where are the youngsters

**azzurri** · 02-05-2006, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Jose_Mourinho

you're going to need more money than that if you want to build your team. I like Juve but they are too old. They need to buy young. And if you're looking for a player to help liven the mid field how about Emre, he wants out of Newcastle and back to Italy, Will he be good??

were not rebuilding the team, only adding a few more players. 35 mil plus the sales/swaps of numerous players is more than enough.

**Jager** · 02-05-2006, 07:01 PM

So Emerson and Viera still in the middle?

Riquelme is going to be really expensive, and I'm not sold. Great player, but he disappeared, and he was shut down when Arse pressured him.

A fast team would screw him up. Not the answer.

**azzurri** · 02-05-2006, 07:07 PM

if this overhaul of our mid is to be effective we must get rid of veiria. if not, complicates everything and its hard to make an accurate prediction which direction were heading.

Muscolino18 · 02-05-2006, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jose_Mourinho

you're going to need more money than that if you want to build your team. I like Juve but they are too old. They need to buy young. And if you're looking for a player to help liven the mid field how about Emre, he wants out of Newcastle and back to Italy, Will he be good??

Yeah, maybe Roman can lend us a buck or two.

...ahem.

**LAF** · 02-05-2006, 09:39 PM

Everybody seems keen on a player to sit in the hole but I feel we need a box to box midfielder (like Gerrard). You seen what happened in the first 10 mins against Siena when Vieira got his finger out and ran box to box, we played very well.

I like the idea of Mancini coming. He would make a big difference.

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Too much guilt laid on Ibra, Capello is as much to blame as anyone.
Fabio, you have Rosicky overrated. Good job Moggi doesn't seem that tempted to make a move for him anyway.

I don't think Aimar would command a place in our starting XI (better Serie A 'prospect' than Rosicky, but still not Juve material) and the only way Riquelme could operate in our midfield would be a complete overhaul of our setup, which isn't going to happen. He needs the team built entirely around him, I doubt we're prepared to do that. One thing I dislike about Riquelme is his seeming inability to handle pressure, note his exile from Barcelona and of course his choke against Arsenal recently.

One thing's for sure though, Capello needs to realise that in Europe and in big games, Emo and Vieira can't co-exist in the middle - they compromise our offence and seem to get in each other's way in an overcrowded midfield.

I like Mancini though, he and Marchionni would be fantastic additions to the roster, the latter already confirmed.

Riquelme, although he has huge talent, is a massive choker and has a habit of going missing. Like Pete says we'd need to build the team around Riquelme because he rarely tracks back.

**D-Kin** · 02-05-2006, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jager

In my opinion, knowing them. They would never admit it, however I think Juve is resigned to the fact that they are in a mini rebuilding mode.

Exactly, we are in a transition at the moment. It began when Capello took charge but the job isn't finished yet.

**D-Kin** · 02-05-2006, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by azzurri

if this overhaul of our mid is to be effective we must get rid of veiria. if not, complicates everything and its hard to make an accurate prediction which direction were heading.

We don't NEED to get rid of Vieira but if he stays (which I think he will) then in my opinion we need to change the formation. Maybe to a 4-3-3.

**D-Kin** · 02-05-2006, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by LAF

Riquelme, although he has huge talent, is a massive choker and has a habit of going missing. Like Pete says we'd need to build the team around Riquelme because he rarely tracks back.

Spot on, Riquelme is the kind of player that likes to be the centre of attention and the centre of the team. It's the main reason why he left Barca so it would certainly be a gamble if we signed him.

**azzurri** · 02-05-2006, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Fabio

We don't NEED to get rid of Vieira but if he stays (which I think he will) then in my opinion we need to change the formation. Maybe to a 4-3-3.

i think we do. if we dont, that certainly means veiria and emerson will be our starters in the centre, seeing as i doubt capello will bench veiria and/or vieiria will put up with being benched.

emerson and vieria get in each others way and make the mid way to defensive. if we r to overhaul our mid and make it more atacking, it cant just be from the wings, unless we want to continue are european fallouts. emerson adds more than enough defence to our mid.

HOWEVER, last weeks siena game has made me a little confused. it reminded me what he is capable of when he decidies to push up and get involved. he played like that at the beginning of the season and juve were flying. who knows, maybe he will get another chance. if so, he better not turn back into his lazy 5th defender ways.

**D-Kin** · 02-05-2006, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by azzurri

i think we do. if we dont, that certainly means veiria and emerson will be our starters in the centre, seeing as i doubt capello will bench veiria and/or vieiria will put up with being benched.

emerson and vieria get in each others way and make the mid way to defensive. if we r to overhaul our mid and make it more atacking, it cant just be from the wings, unless we want to continue are european fallouts. emerson adds more than enough defence to our mid.

HOWEVER, last weeks siena game has made me a little confused. it reminded me what he is capable of when he decidies to push up and get involved. he played like that at the beginning of the season and juve were flying. who knows, maybe he will get another chance. he better not still be a lazy fuck next season if he is to stay around.

I agree with everything you said but I honestly can't see Vieira leaving which is why I suggested the formation change. With the players we currently have I would have played something like this throughout this season:

-----------------------------Buffon--------------------------------------------

---Zambrotta-----Thuram-----Cannavaro-----Balzaretti--------------

-------Camoranesi--------Emerson--------Vieira---------------------------

----------------Zlatan-----Trezeguet-----Del Piero/Mutu/Nedved-------

Obviously with new signings this formation could look even better.

hanuma · 03-05-2006, 08:31 AM

Hmm. Imo you need a new left sided midfielder (or play Zambro there) a creative midfielder that can compliment either Vieira or Emerson and a young goalscoring striker and a top young(er) central defender.

I still like Saviola with Zlatan, but if you don't Kuijt or Torres would be very good options. Pizzaro with Emerson or De Rossi with Vieira. Gallas would be sweet as a nut for you, but other than him perhaps Luisao. I would play Zambro in midfield with Chiellini, Barzagli etc at fullback, but if you want to buy one why not Esposito?

**D-Kin** · 03-05-2006, 10:07 AM

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Hmm. Imo you need a new left sided midfielder (or play Zambro there) a creative midfielder that can compliment either Vieira or Emerson and a young goalscoring striker and a top young(er) central defender.

I still like Saviola with Zlatan, but if you don't Kuijt or Torres would be very good options. Pizzaro with Emerson or De Rossi with Vieira. Gallas would be sweet as a nut for you, but other than him perhaps Luisao. I would play Zambro in midfield with Chiellini, Barzagli etc at fullback, but if you want to buy one why not Esposito?

Yes, we need at left winger, a creative midfielder and a young centre back at the very least. We'll probably need a new right winger as well if we get rif of Camoranesi. I think we could get away with not getting a striker though as we have Trezegol, Zlatan, Alex Del, Mutu and there's one of two youngsters coming through the ranks that may get their chance next season.

It's interesting that you mentioned Pizarro but it looks like he's on his way to Palermo in a deal for Grosso. De Rossi would be a fantastic signing but unfortunately I can't see it happening for the simple reason that Roma won't sell him.

The idea of Zambrotta playing in midfield is a good one but in all honesty it's more likely that Chiellini will end up playing there because he's so attacking. Zambrotta is such a good full back that we'd be shooting ourselves in the foot if we pushed him forward. Personally I'd like to see Zambrotta and Balzaretti as our starting full backs.