A2: Czech Republic 1 - 3 Portugal - 11/06/08

[kyan]

Originally Posted by Trim

Cristiano Ronaldo didn't do anything either. He was a shadow for most of the time, only appeared in the last minutes, scored that goal and assisted to Quaremsa.

So apart from play a role in the first goal, score the second goal and get the assist for the 3rd goal he did nothing?

Firstly, if that's "all" he'll do in a game I'd be pretty pleased.

And secondly, going forward, nobody, except Deco, offered more, yes he was greedy, and yes he had some ambitious shots, but almost all of them were on target and forced saves from Cech.

Ronaldo is a footballer, not superman, I'm not sure what more anyone could expect from him...

[Oliver_Kahn]

Originally Posted by __-SNAKE-__

This is a true fact, Oliver_Kahn, you doubt Ricardo too much, he's a pretty good keeper(better than Lehmann), the ball he saved from Sionko's header was excellent.

not really, the shot was straight at him, he just sticked his out arm. it was a save that most professional goalkeepers would make.

and the first goal was also his fault, he was about to come out, then changed his mind and was out of position when sionko took his shot.

[LaVecchiaSignora]

i dont think ricardo was the spectacular...the saves he did make were right at him, and everything else wasnt on goal

[Trim]

Originally Posted by kyan

So apart from play a role in the first goal, score the second goal and get the assist for the 3rd goal he did nothing?

Firstly, if that's "all" he'll do in a game I'd be pretty pleased.

And secondly, going forward, nobody, except Deco, offered more, yes he was greedy, and yes he had some ambitious shots, but almost all of them were on target and forced saves from Cech.

Ronaldo is a footballer, not superman, I'm not sure what more anyone could expect from him...

Compared to what we've seen from Ronaldo during the whole season at Manchester United, his performance today was 'nothing'. Anyways, that's my opinion.

Oh.. and, I didn't expect anything else either. Before the tourney started, I said: he's is a different player for Portugal.

Originally Posted by __-SNAKE-__

This is a true fact, Oliver_Kahn, you doubt Ricardo too much, he's a pretty good keeper(better than Lehmann), the ball he saved from Sionko's header was excellent.

Are you kidding me? Oh, and that save of Sionko's header was the only time he was tested properly. He made some saves, but he was nothing spectacular.

[LaVecchiaSignora]

Originally Posted by Trim

Compared to what we've seen from Ronaldo during the whole season at Manchester United, his performance today was 'nothing'. Anyways, that's my opinion.

Oh.. and, I didn't expect anything else either. Before the tourney started, I said: he's is a different player for Portugal.

Doesnt everyone play a bit differently when they are surrounded by the top 10 players from their country though? And playing against the top 11 players from other countries?

[Trim]

Originally Posted by LaVecchiaSignora

Doesnt everyone play a bit differently when they are surrounded by the top 10 players from their country though? And playing against the top 11 players from other countries?

Not always the case. ex: Ballack is always the same great player for whoever he plays: Bayern, Chelsea, Germany NT.

[__-SNAKE-__]

Originally Posted by Oliver_Kahn

not really, the shot was straight at him, he just sticked his out arm. it was a save that most professional goalkeepers would make.

That maybe the case but from that range and speed the cross came and he was unmarked it was a great save, it easily could have gotten in and in other times he did parry the ball quite well.

Originally Posted by Oliver_Kahn

and the first goal was also his fault, he was about to come out, then changed his mind and was out of position when sionko took his shot.

Maybe so, he COULD have gotten out but remember that there were 2 Czech players waiting for the ball, 1 was marked well and the 2nd was Sionko which was supposely marked by Petit. Also we all talked about Deco, Ronaldo etc but we all forgot about Moutinho, to me personally he had a good game too, in the 1st half he kept his position well good passes he was better than Petit IMO.

[LaVecchiaSignora]

Originally Posted by Trim

Not always the case. ex: Ballack is always the same great player for whoever he plays: Bayern, Chelsea, Germany NT.

But hes not nearly the superstar that ronaldo is....hes level of play is always lower then ronaldos

[Trim]

Ronaldo show shatters Czechs

euro2008.uefa.com - Tournament - Matches

Where was that show FFS?

[lionel]

Originally Posted by Oliver_Kahn

He was completely isolated on the 2nd touch, how could he pass in that situation? Unless you suggest he should pass the ball 20 meters back when you're inside the box..
The first goal was a missed dribble, it happens. At least we kept possession of the ball, unlike when Ronaldo lost the ball countless times in the first half.

the 3rd goal was legal, rozenhal put Ronaldo onside.

I agree mate, I said I liked what he was trying to do... but his whole attitude seemed weird and selfish to me. I guess its just me.

and about the goal, I as wondering wether the ball was standing when deco took the free-kick... that it was onside I know.

[Trim]

The official Man of the Match is Cristiano Ronaldo.

euro2008.uefa.com - Fanzone

[Oliver_Kahn]

Originally Posted by __-SNAKE-__

That maybe the case but from that range and speed the cross came and he was unmarked it was a great save, it easily could have gotten in and in other times he did parry the ball quite well.

Bollocks. the shot was easily handled, the ball was straight at him and it wasn't as fast as you say, not even close.

Originally Posted by __-SNAKE-__

Maybe so, he COULD have gotten out but remember that there were 2 Czech players waiting for the ball, 1 was marked well and the 2nd was Sionko which was supposely marked by Petit. Also we all talked about Deco, Ronaldo etc but we all forgot about Moutinho, to me personally he had a good game too, in the 1st half he kept his position well good passes he was better than Petit IMO.

So what, if you're a goalkeeper, you either come out or you stay in goal. If you want to do both at the same time, you're going to concede a goal.

Moutinho had a good game, I agree. Petit was Portugal's worst player on the field, absolutely terrible performance.

[LaVecchiaSignora]

Originally Posted by Trim

The official Man of the Match is Cristiano Ronaldo.

euro2008.uefa.com - Fanzone

They dont always pikc the right player, just the most popular

[kyan]

Yeah it happened quite a lot this season that Ronaldo wouldn't do much in a game and then would turn it on its head by scoring 1, maybe 2 goals or assisting.

Like against Arsenal in the 2-2 draw at the Emirates, he was completely out of the game but scored the first goal and supplied the cross for the second.

He can drift in and out of a game but he'll make a telling contribution, which he did tonight, so yes he did put on a show.

[__-SNAKE-__]

Originally Posted by LaVecchiaSignora

But hes not nearly the superstar that ronaldo is....hes level of play is always lower then ronaldos

You cannot compare Ballack to Ronaldo, both midfielder are different, Ballack is an attacking midfielder while Ronaldo is a high class winger, they both have their styles.