FC Bayern in the Champions League 2008/09

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Below it is assumed that seeded teams in the 3rd qualifying round qualify for the group stage. When unseeded teams qualify other teams may shift to a higher pot.

Group Stage (32 teams)

Pot 1                          coef.     Pot 2                          coef.
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Chelsea                  Eng 124.996     Bayern München           Ger  92.078
Liverpool ***            Eng 118.996     PSV Eindhoven            Ned  91.610
FC Barcelona ***         Esp 117.837     Villarreal               Esp  90.837
Arsenal ***              Eng 110.996     AS Roma                  Ita  81.934
Manchester United        Eng 107.996     FC Porto                 Por  81.176
Olympique Lyon           Fra  99.380     Werder Bremen            Ger  74.078
Internazionale           Ita  96.934     Sporting CP Lisbon       Por  67.176
Real Madrid              Esp  93.837     Juventus ***             Ita  66.934

Pot 3                          coef.     Pot 4                          coef.
------------------------ --- -------     ------------------------ --- -------
Olympique Marseille ***  Fra  63.380     Shakhtar Donetsk ***     Ukr  49.932
Zenit St. Petersburg     Rus  60.437     Fiorentina ***           Ita  40.934
Steaua Bucuresti ***     Rom  59.398     Atlético Madrid ***      Esp  36.837
Panathinaikos **         Gre  52.525     Dinamo Kiev **           Ukr  34.932
Girondins Bordeaux       Fra  52.380     CFR Cluj                 Rom  13.398
Celtic                   Sco  52.013     AaB Aalborg **           Den  12.748
FC Basel **              Sui  51.993     Anorthosis Famagusta *** Cyp   4.327
Fenerbahçe **            Tur  51.469     BATE Borisov *           Bls   1.760

Unseeded teams in the 2nd qualification round that qualify for the next round take effectively the coefficient of their opponent in the next round. The reason for this is that the draw for the 3rd qualification round is made before the results of the 2nd qualification round are known. In the 3rd qualifying round teams from the same country cannot play against each other.

3rd Qualifying Round (32 teams)

Seeded teams                   coef.     Unseeded teams                 coef.
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Liverpool                Eng 118.996     Atlético Madrid          Esp  36.837
FC Barcelona             Esp 117.837     Sparta Praha **          Cze  36.496
Arsenal                  Eng 110.996     Dinamo Kiev **           Ukr  34.932
Schalke 04               Ger  67.078     Levski Sofia             Bul  32.644
Juventus                 Ita  66.934     Slavia Praha             Cze  31.496
FBK Kaunas *             Lit  66.013     Galatasaray              Tur  30.469
Olympique Marseille      Fra  63.380     Partizan Belgrade **     Srb  25.527
Steaua Bucuresti         Rom  59.398     Vitória Guimarães        Por  18.176
Panathinaikos **         Gre  52.525     Dinamo Zagreb *          Cro  17.836
FC Basel **              Sui  51.993     Wisla Kraków **          Pol  15.973
Olympiakos Piraeus       Gre  51.525     Standard Liège           Bel  14.810
Fenerbahçe **            Tur  51.469     FC Twente Enschede       Ned  14.610
Shakhtar Donetsk         Ukr  49.932     Petrzalka Bratislava *   Svk  14.070
BATE Borisov *           Bls  41.810     AaB Aalborg **           Den  12.748
Fiorentina               Ita  40.934     SK Brann Bergen **       Nor  12.400
Spartak Moscow           Rus  40.437     Anorthosis Famagusta *   Cyp  10.840

** = team started in 2nd qualification round
*** = team started in 3rd qualification round

Seeding in the Champions League 2008/2009

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As it is currently, in the group stage we'll face one team from Pot.1, one team from Pot. 3 and one team from Pot.4.

Milan was in Pot.1, but because they will be competing in the UEFA Cup next season, Real Madrid took chance and jumped in Pot.1 from Pot.2.

If one of Liverpool, Barcelona or Arsenal don't qualify, than we'll jump to the first pot, which would mean we'd have to face one team from Pot.2, one from Pot.3 and one from Pot.4.

Not sure if I'm correct (!!!), but I think the UEFA Cup elimination in the semi-finals cost us being behind Real Madrid.

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European dream
Reds focus efforts on Champions League

Bayern have claimed the German double four times since 2003 to underscore their status as the non plus ultra on the domestic scene, but the Bavarians' recent record in Europe leaves plenty to be desired. Since winning the Champions League in 2001, the Reds have never progressed beyond the quarter-finals, while last term's UEFA Cup campaign ended in the last four.

Under new boss Jürgen Klinsmann, Germany's number one club are determined to make up for a few lean years, and have named the Champions League final in Rome on 27 May as a target for the coming term. "We judge ourselves against the top teams and have to prove our international credentials. We'll do everything in our power to make the final in Rome. That's our goal,“ Klinsmann declared at the official season-opening event on Tuesday.

Borowski eyes Champions League glory

One item on the agenda was the unveiling of the club's new Champions League kit, an all-white strip with red trim on the shirt, shorts and socks in which the men from Munich will do battle with the best teams from England, Spain and Italy. "I'm looking forward to the new season and the Champions League. We want to go as far as we can and make an impression,“ declared summer signing Tim Borowski.

The coach and the players are not the only people in the game to have set their sights on 27 May 2009. "We all share the dream, but we're not the only ones with the same dream. Many other clubs have it too. It'll be unbelievably difficult,“ chairman Karl-Heinz Rummenigge warned, "but we've done everything conceivable to make our mark in Europe this season. On a good day, we're in with a chance against any other team in the world.“

Kahn senses big things ahead

Oliver Kahn is convinced his former team-mates can go far: "You shouldn't read anything into the UEFA Cup. We'll see a very different Bayern in the Champions League. Why shouldn't the team make it to Rome? Everything's possible, including a place in the final.“ The former Bayern skipper named players such as "Philipp Lahm, Lukas Podolski and Bastian Schweinsteiger, who've all taken another step forward in recent months. In fact, the whole team has come on. I believe Bayern can go a very long way indeed."

Reds focus efforts on Champions League

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Thursday, 28 August 2008
The UEFA Champions League group phase draw

[B@v@r3zU]

Bayern will be in semi-final this season in Uefa Champions League

[RunX]

Originally Posted by B@v@r3zU

Bayern will be in semi-final this season in Uefa Champions League

Hope For That ! It will be Awsome .

[__-SNAKE-__]

Keep dreaming, the way we are doing it now we wont even qualify from the fucken group stage!

[Vargas_4]

Now, now.

I know we aren't looking good at the moment but let's take 1 game at a time.

The Group Stage hasn't kicked off and it could give us time to fix what it needs to be fixed.

[RunX]

Still 3 Weeks for the CL, I think that we have time to correct our mistakes and to get better.

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Pot 1                          coef.     Pot 2                          coef.
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Chelsea                  Eng 124.996     Bayern München           Ger  92.078
Liverpool ***            Eng 118.996     PSV Eindhoven            Ned  91.610
FC Barcelona ***         Esp 117.837     Villarreal               Esp  90.837
Arsenal ***              Eng 110.996     AS Roma                  Ita  81.934
Manchester United        Eng 107.996     FC Porto                 Por  81.176
Olympique Lyon           Fra  99.380     Werder Bremen            Ger  74.078
Internazionale           Ita  96.934     Sporting CP Lisbon       Por  67.176
Real Madrid              Esp  93.837     Juventus ***             Ita  66.934

Liverpool and Standard de Liege played a 0-0 draw in Beligum.

The second match is being played right now at Anfield, and it's in extra time.
It's 0-0 aswell. Penalties to follow up shortly, if no goals are scored.

If Liverpool doesn't make it, then FC Bayern moves up to Pot 1.

The draw is tomorrow by the way, just to remind you.

[Munchen Minded]

There are some really tough teams even in Pot 4, and of course there are some really awesome teams in pots 1 through 3 -- so we are going to have a really tough time.

With losing Jensen, Altintop now on a long injury lay off, with Lell being shit, Van Buyten with his head up his ass, Poldi acting like a fucking whiner again about not starting every fucking game, with Ribery barely going to return in time for the CL to start, with Rensing not being Kahn, with Van Bommel being sent off every game, with Klose failing to score anymore, and with Klinsmann continuing to play experimentation and act like he knows what he is doing -- we are fucked.

I hate to point out all the obvious points, but at the beginning of Summer I was hopeful with our depth, at this point I keep asking: what depth? we just don't have it anymore. We have too many starting players who just don't have experience. Unless Bayern hit the transfer market in the next couple of days with at least 3 signings -- 1 or 2 in defense and the rest in either Midfield or a forward then we aren't going out of the group phase except by luck, but we definitely won't make it beyond the Quarter finals -- not with our squad like it is.

[Vargas_4]

Originally Posted by Munchen Minded

With losing Jensen, Altintop now on a long injury lay off, with Lell being shit, Van Buyten with his head up his ass, Poldi acting like a fucking whiner again about not starting every fucking game, with Ribery barely going to return in time for the CL to start, with Rensing not being Kahn, with Van Bommel being sent off every game, with Klose failing to score anymore, and with Klinsmann continuing to play experimentation and act like he knows what he is doing -- we are fucked.

Agreed.

My faith has hit rock bottom and i'm really, really worried.

[RunX]

Originally Posted by Munchen Minded

There are some really tough teams even in Pot 4, and of course there are some really awesome teams in pots 1 through 3 -- so we are going to have a really tough time.

With losing Jensen, Altintop now on a long injury lay off, with Lell being shit, Van Buyten with his head up his ass, Poldi acting like a fucking whiner again about not starting every fucking game, with Ribery barely going to return in time for the CL to start, with Rensing not being Kahn, with Van Bommel being sent off every game, with Klose failing to score anymore, and with Klinsmann continuing to play experimentation and act like he knows what he is doing -- we are fucked.

I hate to point out all the obvious points, but at the beginning of Summer I was hopeful with our depth, at this point I keep asking: what depth? we just don't have it anymore. We have too many starting players who just don't have experience. Unless Bayern hit the transfer market in the next couple of days with at least 3 signings -- 1 or 2 in defense and the rest in either Midfield or a forward then we aren't going out of the group phase except by luck, but we definitely won't make it beyond the Quarter finals -- not with our squad like it is.

Agree With you Munchen Minded, I think that we will have a diffecult draw.
My Draw prediction:
Man Utd
Bayern Munchen
Zinet St
Atl Madrid

and we will elimnated!

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Oh, Nostradamus!!

You have to be really unlucky to get a draw like that! Not happening.

[GhostFromAbyss]

Doesn't matter what we will get in the group stages,if we will play like in the Bundesliga we will be eliminated...