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[Oliver_Kahn]

Originally Posted by Trim

It's about a no.2 there.

So ? If we want a crap one, get someone from the second division.

This no.2 has to be a solid GK, he will have to be good enough to step in for Rensing, you'll never know when he'll hit a slump (which I predict to occurre very in the early goings of the season).

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The goalkeeper issue is very delicate. And, it comes at this very critical phase. Title defending, back to CL, new coach, new goalkeeper.

Rensing can't be trusted yo. It can be seen every match he takes part in.
He used to be good and secure, he is not anymore.

How can the board feel so secure with him? Damn. It sucks to know he'll be our no.1 next season.

[Oliver_Kahn]

Originally Posted by Trim

The goalkeeper issue is very delicate. And, it comes at this very critical phase. Title defending, back to CL, new coach, new goalkeeper.

Rensing can't be trusted yo. It can be seen every match he takes part in.
He used to be good and secure, he is not anymore.

How can the board feel so secure with him? Damn. It sucks to know he'll be our no.1 next season.

Indeed. I guess the board needs a season of complete failure to wake up again.
We seem to be going backwards:

1. Not wanting to spend big again after having said we'd do it (like in the summer of the season we finished 4th)
2. Not signing a quality replacement for a quality player (this time Kahn, last time Ballack)


Can you see the pattern there ? I'm really negative as you guys know, but I'm not feeling to comfortable about next season, which will be a lot more demanding than this one..

[Munchen Minded]

Neither of these keepers would be wanted, even if it is for no2. Its really hard trying to get a No2, as most No2 keepers want to step up to No1. Anyway I liked Zenit's keeper, he is their real hero and the one keeping them in the UEFA Cup thus far.

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We have a good squad already, why spend big again? Borowski is coming for free, we need an extra striker imo and Rensing will be good enough imo too, When? Well when he is truly the number 1 and starts to play regular and gets more match practise and experience, there maybe a few flaws but its important to give him some time to settle as Kahn successor. About what Oliver Kahn said who do you have in mind to fill Bollocks place? we have Ribery on the left and Ze Roberto in the middle along with Van Bommel, Altintop and Schweini on the right and we have Sosa who can play both, Lell and Jansen and replacements of Sagnol and Lahm, Lucio and Demichelis along with Breno and Van Buyten, the trouble is and extra striker instead of Schlaudraff (maybe Wagner?) and a replacment goalkeeper. Gorlitz maybe coming back No need for more big money signings for now, that will only cause our regulars or subs(Podolski) to be unsettled and want to leave for 1st team football.

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Ribéry needs help. He just can't do it on his own. I'd spend big on just one big player, and that's it.

[Oliver_Kahn]

Originally Posted by __-SNAKE-__

We have a good squad already, why spend big again? Borowski is coming for free, we need an extra striker imo and Rensing will be good enough imo too, When? Well when he is truly the number 1 and starts to play regular and gets more match practise and experience, there maybe a few flaws but its important to give him some time to settle as Kahn successor.

Rensing proved he isn't good enough to fill in for Kahn, remember that month that Kahn was injured ? Rensing was poor, bar the match vs Bochum, and almost cost us the match against Red Star. If it wasn't for Kroos' lucky last-minute goal, we wouldn't have won that match. In these last few matches that Rensing played, he didn't look anywhere near secure, even Vargas who used to support Rensing through thick and thin, has lost faith.

Originally Posted by __-SNAKE-__

About what Oliver Kahn said who do you have in mind to fill Bollocks place? we have Ribery on the left and Ze Roberto in the middle along with Van Bommel, Altintop and Schweini on the right and we have Sosa who can play both, Lell and Jansen and replacements of Sagnol and Lahm, Lucio and Demichelis along with Breno and Van Buyten, the trouble is and extra striker instead of Schlaudraff (maybe Wagner?) and a replacment goalkeeper. Gorlitz maybe coming back No need for more big money signings for now, that will only cause our regulars or subs(Podolski) to be unsettled and want to leave for 1st team football.

Clearly you misunderstood me.

I said last time we didn't sign a proper replacement for Ballack (last time = summer of 2006) and this time we aren't signing a proper replacement for Kahn (this time = summer 2008).

Borowski only plays half of the matches, point 1. Point 2, he is a good player, but not world class, the world is full of good players, but to win CL you must have more than 2/3 world class players. Currently we have Ribery, Toni and Klose/Ze Roberto to a certain extend. That's it.

In defence, we're good in the CB department, but we're not in the full-back department. Jansen is a class LB but he is seems to be a tad too injury prone and we're losing Lahm, so who do you play when Jansen is out ?
Lell is a shit defender, end of. Görlitz can't play on the left, as far as I know, at least not good enough to provide us width to that flank. Sagnol has been far from convincing since his return, so I fail to realize how we're well covered in the FB area.

In midfield, van Bommel and Borowski are good players, but that's it. You won't see Borowski dominating a match like Ballack used to and you won't see van Bommel breaking down attacks with superb tackles because he can't tackle!
I didn't even talk about Ottl, who is nowhere near Bayern quality, just a good reserve. Ze Roberto is top class, but he is retiring at the end of the next season, so we'll need a replacement.
In terms of wingers, we're very well covered, I agree. Ribery, Piggy, Hamit, Sosa and Kroos.


Up front, Toni is our only truly reliable striker. Podolski misses far too many chances and Klose seems to have patches of bad form every year (usually it's a month or two, this season it has been over 5 months).
Were you serious about Wagner mate ? The guy scored a goal vs Stuttgart, but tbh he just had to tap it in, nothing fancy about it. Against Hannover, he missed chance after chance. It's no surprise that he only got 2 goals playing for Bayern II last season.


So my conclusion is:
- we need a top class goalkeeper;
- if we lose Lahm, we need a direct replacement, someone that plays LB more than RB, preferably;
- we need a top class DM;
- a new striker, who doesn't mind the super sub role.

[BlackNess]

^^ Well said.

We had the best goalkeeper in the world for so many years, now we are not aware to how important it is .

1 Signing a Top class goalkeeper is a must !!!

1. We Bid on one of the German Youngsters . ( Neuer, Adler, Hildebrand )
2. We buy a Top class goalkeeper like Frey .



2 Without Lahm we can't be in the same class as ManU, Barca, Real, Inter, etc ....

Solutions :
- Rafinha
- Gonzalo Castro
- Fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk you can find someone like Lahm


3

We better continue this Buying strategy, We brought Ribery, Toni and Klose .
This year we should sign another top Class player like the Big Clubs .

LOOOOK AT ManU, they won the championship but they bought Tevez and Hargreaves .

[Oliver_Kahn]

Castro and Rafinha can't play on the left, pointless signings. We need someone that plays LB, not RB (if Lahm does leave, the bastard).

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Its true we didnt sign a replacment for Ballack(sry for the misunderstanding) but it was clearly that 1) Bayern last time wouldnt bother signing anyone with a huge sum 2) Maybe Riquelme would have been great but he wasnt interested so who would replace him? True that Borowski doesnt dominate the midfield as Ballack, but he could take a good role in the midfield, Van Bommel is too aggressive to be the DMC imo, Demichelis would have been fine imo. About the FB position well atm we have Sagnol and Gorlitz will come back so that takes care of the right, for the moment, maybe Jansen and Lell can take left, Lell did play left back sometimes, Castro and Rafinha would be good signings but maybe after Sagnol retires. No one can take Lahm's place in the end(unfortunatly) and atm I cant think of anyone who can. About the keeper problem, well what do you think if we sell Rensing and buy Adler instead ( dreaming...) Maybe the case is that he isnt well reliable as Kahn, but he clearly needs some match practise, not just 1 rare appearance, this season he did have a few flops(Red Star and almost against Zenit) but he's still young. Frey, Hildebrand and Adler are good signings but Bayern DID promise Rensing that he will be the #1, cant think of a reserve keeper though. About the sub Striker maybe Benzema and Ben Arfa would be ideal.

[Oliver_Kahn]

Originally Posted by __-SNAKE-__

Its true we didnt sign a replacment for Ballack(sry for the misunderstanding) but it was clearly that 1) Bayern last time wouldnt bother signing anyone with a huge sum 2) Maybe Riquelme would have been great but he wasnt interested so who would replace him?

1.) Exactly what's happening now, that's what I said above mate.
2.) Riquelme wasn't the only option, actually he wouldn't fit in in our 4-4-2 as he needs a team built around him.

We needed to dig deep to find someone of undeniable quality, that's why we have scouts. The problem is though, the board didn't want to spend back then, as they seemed rather 'happy' with the situation, as they seem now.

Yes we're about to win the league and yes we won the Pokal + Liga Pokal and are close to the Uefa Cup final, but this roster still has a few flaws, we have no creativity sources other than Ribery and to a certain extend Ze Roberto, we need someone else. Our striker department needs improvement as well and our GK department will also look poor without Kahn.

Originally Posted by __-SNAKE-__

True that Borowski doesnt dominate the midfield as Ballack, but he could take a good role in the midfield, Van Bommel is too aggressive to be the DMC imo, Demichelis would have been fine imo.

I'm sure he'll be useful, but would you say Bayern can rely on Borowski (who btw plays only of the the matches per season) to carry us to the CL win ?

As for MvB, I'm one of the very few on this forum that don't rate him and I stand by my comments. He can't tackle, commits more fouls than wins tackles, his passing is average and the amount of 40 yarders he peppers over the bar, and free kicks he fires into the shins of the wall is ridiculous.

Originally Posted by __-SNAKE-__

About the FB position well atm we have Sagnol and Gorlitz will come back so that takes care of the right, for the moment, maybe Jansen and Lell can take left, Lell did play left back sometimes,

Lell is a liability at RB, imagine how worse he'd be at LB. Görlitz is also like Lell, he attacks well, but is just average at defending.

Originally Posted by __-SNAKE-__

Castro and Rafinha would be good signings but maybe after Sagnol retires.
No one can take Lahm's place in the end(unfortunatly) and atm I cant think of anyone who can.

I have to agree. I can't think of anyone either.

Originally Posted by __-SNAKE-__

About the keeper problem, well what do you think if we sell Rensing and buy Adler instead ( dreaming...) Maybe the case is that he isnt well reliable as Kahn, but he clearly needs some match practise, not just 1 rare appearance, this season he did have a few flops(Red Star and almost against Zenit) but he's still young.

I do agree he needs some match practice first, but from what he has shown this season, I really don't think he'll ever improve enough to be a starter for us.
And it wasn't just a rare appearance, he had nearly a month as Bayern's starting goalkeeper, but he really didn't impress.

Originally Posted by __-SNAKE-__

Frey, Hildebrand and Adler are good signings but Bayern DID promise Rensing that he will be the #1, cant think of a reserve keeper though. About the sub Striker maybe Benzema and Ben Arfa would be ideal.

I know, that's what really bothers me.

Benzema would be way too expensive and he is not a sub, that's for sure. Ben Harfa is a winger

[__-SNAKE-__]

After that great win against Stuttgart here is something to make you laugh.

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Chelsea To Swap Malouda For Ribery?
Chelsea are willing to offer Bayern Munich Florent Malouda in a deal that they hope will see Franck Ribery arrive at Stamford Bridge.

The Blues are reported to be interested in Ribery despite the Frenchman having only signed for Bayern Munich last summer.

The Frenchman has been enjoying a great season with the German side who could potentially win a league and UEFA Cup double this season.

However Chelsea are apparently keen to add Ribery to their ranks, having also been reportedly interested last summer before he opted for a move to Munich instead.

Whilst Bayern would be reluctant to see Ribery leave, Chelsea feel that a swap deal involving Florent Malouda and a fee of around £10 million might prove attractive.

Despite signing Malouda last summer from Lyon for a fee of £13.5 million the Frenchman has had a disappointing first season at Stamford Bridge.

Although he scored on his Premier League debut, he hasn’t managed another league goal since and has managed only 14 league starts all season.

The Chelsea hierarchy have been critical in recent weeks over the perceived lack of flair in the current side and the addition of Ribery would certainly bring some flair and creativity to Stamford Bridge.

Whether Ribery can be persuaded to quit Munich for London where he has enjoyed a successful first season remains to be seen. Chelsea are facing an interesting summer with Avram Grant’s tenure as manager far from secure, despite the fact his side are now level at the top of the Premier League and on the cusp of reaching a Champions League final.

Furthermore, if rumours are to be believed, the manager might not be the only high profile departure from the club this season with a number of players also reported to be heading for the Stamford Bridge exit.

Goal.com - Chelsea - Chelsea To Swap Malouda For Ribery?

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