#2 Willy Sagnol ~ Set for retirement?

[Oliver_Kahn]

We get Rafinha (around 12m) and Castro (around 8m), Lahm (around 15m) and Sagnol (around 12m) go. Problem solved.

[BlackNess]

Originally Posted by Oliver_Kahn

We get Rafinha (around 12m) and Castro (around 8m), Lahm (around 15m) and Sagnol (around 12m) go. Problem solved.

for Sagnol.... i don't give a shit .

But Lahm ... Hell no, we can't say Problem solved .

[BlackNess]

Originally Posted by Podolski

I bet we can get alot of money for him. Who knows, he could be absolute shit after his injury.. unless he was good against wolfsburg, I couldn't really judge with my chinese stream.

as trim said we can use the money to buy more promising talents.

are you using ??
He didn't play Against Wolfsburg .

[Podolski]

oh ok. I just guessed that where it says "following the positive result against Wolfsburg.." was also talking about his performance
and what do you mean 'are you using?'

[BlackNess]

Originally Posted by Podolski

oh ok. I just guessed that where it says "following the positive result against Wolfsburg.." was also talking about his performance
and what do you mean 'are you using?'

Flying ... talking with god ....

[Ylli_Bayern]

I dont think he is leaving cuz of his age, he is not that old, he is 30 and he can paly form more 2 or 3 years at least. It is hard to find someone like him, he is one of the best right back defender. Bayern will need him more than ever before, we have two good head strikers,Toni and Klose, and Sgnol's crosses would fit perfectly.This is what i'm waitin to see since the start of the season, he cant go now.

I remeber 3 or 4 years ago when his contract was expiried, he decided to stay wiht a reason "Fans want me to stay and I have decided to stay", I hope he will make the same decision again ....

[Trim]

Originally Posted by Robinho4Ever

Why would Man Utd need him ?? He's old, and they have Neville and Pique !!

Man Utd badly need a RB, and Sagnol would be the perfect signing for them.

[Trim]

Originally Posted by Oliver_Kahn

We get Rafinha (around 12m) and Castro (around 8m), Lahm (around 15m) and Sagnol (around 12m) go. Problem solved.

Schalke won't sell Rafinha that cheap.

Castro could be bought for that money, but how good is he?

Lahm around 15m seems fair, judging the contract situation.

Sagnol around 12m seems too much, I don't think any team would pay that much. Oh wait, we fooled Man Utd once (with Hargreaves, 25m), we can do it again.

I don't bother if Sagnol leaves, or not.
I know he's a legend, a vice-captain, and I respect him a lot.
He's has been one of our best players in the last 10 years.

But, we already have replacements for him.
He hasn't played yet in the new season, and no one notices his absence.

Lell is replacing him pretty good. But, if Hitz doesn't trust Lell (which I don't think is true), than we can bring another replacement.

A lot around, no? A good money offer and we can get anyone.

[Oliver_Kahn]

Originally Posted by Trim17

Schalke won't sell Rafinha that cheap.

12m ain't cheap, but yeah they'll probably ask for a bit more. Considering that Rafinha is still young, I think he worth the gamble.

Originally Posted by Trim17

Castro could be bought for that money, but how good is he?

Actually scrape Castro, we wouldn't need him if Rafinha comes. We'd need someone like Lahm who can play both RB and LB.
But Castro is very good, hence why he is called for Germany. He has given me many points in BL manager too

Originally Posted by Trim17

Sagnol around 12m seems too much, I don't think any team would pay that much. Oh wait, we fooled Man Utd once (with Hargreaves, 25m), we can do it again.

He is worth it, I never really liked him, but I can't deny that he is one of the best.

Originally Posted by Trim17

Lell is replacing him pretty good. But, if Hitz doesn't trust Lell (which I don't think is true), than we can bring another replacement.

I don't trust Lell that much either, at least not as starter for Bayern on our most crucial matches. I think he can be a bit dodgy (remember how easily he was beaten in the whole 90mins against Stuttgart?). I'd rather sign someone and have Lell as reserve, since he can play both LB and RB

Originally Posted by Trim17

A lot around, no? A good money offer and we can get anyone.

Yeah, but Bayern class players aren't that many around, specially not for the kind of offers we usually make. But, Rummenigge said we'd sign a another world class player next summer, so perhaps a new RB is coming

[Vargas_4]

What I really like about Sagnol are his crosses. They're fucking great. Lahm also does awesome crosses. It sucks that both of them are thinking outside of Bayern Munich

[Oliver_Kahn]

Originally Posted by Vargas_4

What I really like about Sagnol are his crosses. They're fucking great. Lahm also does awesome crosses. It sucks that both of them are thinking outside of Bayern Munich

Agreed on Sagnol, his crosses are the best. Rafinha has some good crossing skills too

I think Lahm's offensive ability is very much underrated, he sends in really good crosses, on the other hand, his defensive ability is overrated, he isn't the best of tacklers IMO.

I hope we can negotiate with Lahm and have him renewing his contract. I would hate to see him go, specially when you consider that he can give us at least 8 more seasons

[Vargas_4]

Besides, if he leaves, who in the hell will be captain next year? (Maybe open another forum about it?) Since Kahn is leaving and all.

[Oliver_Kahn]

That's easy, Lucio!
Van Bommel as vice-captain.

[Vargas_4]

Bayern Munich's general manager Uli Hoeneß has said that Willy Sagnol can leave the club if he wants to, but is not taking the French defender's recent statements to seriously.

After failing to win a regular place in the Ottmar Hitzfeld's side this term the 30-year-old claimed that he was unhappy at the Allianz Arena.

That outburst has led Hoeneß to call Sagnol's bluff and announce that if the right offer is received then the club would not stand in his way.

Marseille have been linked with the former Monaco full-back, while Manchester United are aslo said to have made their interest known in the past.

"If he comes to us with a club that wants to buy him, we would not stand in his way," Hoeneß said.

"In any case we have too many players on our books and everything would not fall apart if one or two players leave us this winter."

Despite Sagnol's stated desire, Hoeneß believes that he could well change his mind again very quickly.

"I know Willy well. He's the emotional type. Yesterday he wanted to leave, today he wants to stay and tomorrow he wants a contract extension," he explained.

"We should not take all this too seriously."

[Eric]

agreed lucio would make a perfect captain.

as far as new signings go this will very much depends on who is the coach next year, cause mourinho likes another type of rb than hitz does or anyone else. I think that's the most important thing to fix in the winter break. make sure who will coach next season and then you can buy players....

and i would hate to see willy go. offensivly he is one of the best rbs in the world and don't forget he is also important for ribery. if ismael and sagnol leave it's just van buyten who can speak french...