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21-11-2007, 11:17 PM
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Lippi can barely speak English mate. Not a great quality for the ENGLAND job.
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21-11-2007, 11:18 PM
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http://www.talksoccer.net/forum/vboo...d-manager.html
Here are some of the main candidates.
I'd be VERY shocked if we managed to lure Scolari or Hiddink away from Euro 2008 to come manage England now.
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21-11-2007, 11:22 PM
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Scolari would be a good choice. I'm quite disappointed in what he brought to portugal this qualifications. He also was suspended for his behavior, which is not something you should do in times of need.
I think you should go after capello, I don't see any other choice.
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21-11-2007, 11:29 PM
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I was unaware of Hiddink and Scolari mate, there is no need to slam. I do admit some ignorance on some things. However I saw some great things in the past, and I felt things were not as bad, or that the glass was half full.
Now I feel its half empty, does that make any sense.
Let me say this, I do remember reading comments in this very forum, and watching programs blaming Sven for everything, and that it was imperative that they get an English coach. However that might of been before Scolari and Hiddink rumours or speculation.
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Funnily enough I'm not in the best of moods, sorry.
I'd be surprised if he was to end up taking the England job but would welcome him. So what he can't speak English; it isn't as if that is a big deal and he won't have to give a team talk of any significance for at least 12 months.
I'd be less surprised to see a certain Portuguese take the job. We need someone with confidence in his ability/his methods/himself who can come in and force his will on the set up while not bowing to pressure from the media. Mourinho would also be crazy enough to accept the challenge too.
The problem is though. No English coach is good enough for the job and I can't see any foreign coach being stupid enough to take on what really is the toughest job in football (the pressure from the media, having to work with the FA, battling with some of the most powerful clubs in world football just to try and obtain players for matches, the list goes on.
Unfortunately the FA will probably continue their neat trick of never learning from their mistakes and appoint Stuart Pearce.
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21-11-2007, 11:45 PM
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lol Stuart Pearce.
You better hope they don't read that.
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21-11-2007, 11:50 PM
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Gary Megson,
He's English, Ginger, manager of medicore team, hasn't done anything to warrent a national pos and is someone I could hate in the future.
He meets the criteira.
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22-11-2007, 11:14 AM
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capello interested...
that would be a superb appointment...
he certainly wont stand for any egos in the dressing room...
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22-11-2007, 11:37 AM
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England need to go for a foreigner because there ain't no english manager's who's good enough to coach this team.
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22-11-2007, 01:06 PM
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I deem the best coach of England should be an English manager. Virtually, in the past years, none of any hired England coach were successful to manage the team. Their teaching style were extremely depressed. These were due to hired foreigners, they did not know actual style of England football, that's why all the called players played dully and could not perform their real ability.
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22-11-2007, 01:38 PM
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Jager so many times you acknowledge your ignorance of England and your ill position from which to judge; other times you don't.
Yes many English people did want an English coach and weren't happy having a foreign coach but even most of them will acknowledge that although they'd did to have an English coach none are good enough.
Hardly anyone in England wanted McClaren. Loads of England fans wanted us to loose tonight because they wanted rid of McClaren.
A foreign coach isn't some off the shelf commodity; just cos Sven was sacked doesn't mean that England shouldn't consider another foreign coach.
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Sven quit if i remember rightly. He left on his own terms.
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22-11-2007, 01:39 PM
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lol Stuart Pearce.
You better hope they don't read that.
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He is a worse manager then Sven.
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22-11-2007, 05:19 PM
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To be fair hes only had one season and has got Villa playing some good football. The only other candidates in the British game havent won any trophies (yes winning with Celtic isnt tough) but there is no other names in the premiership who can be real candidates.
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occasionally he has got Villa playing well, occasionally. Ive watched a lot of Villa games, esp at Villa Park, and they've been very negative, and pretty poor. No offence. I've seen Portsmouth play better football, Reading, Spurs, Everton, Liverpool even....
the point is, there isnt a manager in the Premiership, outside of Fergie, Wenger & Rafa, who is any better qualified than McClaren. Giving the job to a mid-table Premiership manager is simply a sideways step....we need a radical step forwards at this time. O'Neill is a likeable fella, and one of the better BBC pundits in his time, but he isnt a fantastic manager imo. he has never really handled top top, mega rich players (no offence to Celtic, Leicester or Villa here) and their egos, and that cant be underestimated here. also, it seems to slip peoples minds that to employ a Northern Irishman because he is "the best BRITISH option" is moving the goalposts somewhat, O'Neill is foreign in terms of being English, so why not go for the best FOREIGN option....?
Capello has confirmed his interest, that sounds good to me. If any manager knows how to create a system and let his players know whats expected of him, its someone like him.
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22-11-2007, 05:38 PM
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Capello is boring yet effective.He'll get you folks playing some solid defensive counter attacking football.
He'll give you respect but demand even more.His morales for one I dont like but He's a proven winner.One cannot deny his class.He's won it all.I seriously would fear a massive team like England if they were coached but Capello.
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22-11-2007, 05:41 PM
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I deem the best coach of England should be an English manager. Virtually, in the past years, none of any hired England coach were successful to manage the team. Their teaching style were extremely depressed. These were due to hired foreigners, they did not know actual style of England football, that's why all the called players played dully and could not perform their real ability.
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Sven was England's first foreign manager, England being shit before and after him has nothing to do with foreign managers.
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Sven quit if i remember rightly. He left on his own terms.
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Then if Sven quit y was he entitled to compensation?
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He is a worse manager then Sven.
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Lots of managers are worse than Sven, but there are better INTERNATIONAL managers as well.
This is ridiculous, just cos a manager does a decent job without ever excelling doesn't mean getting rid of him was a bad decision just because the next manager was worse. It means the appointment made after that was a mistake. It's a pretty big difference which is quite hard to miss.
Letting go of Sven gave England the opportunity to take a step forwards, with the appointment of a Capello or a Scolari... winners, massive egos, in control of their teams and tactically astute & forceful (which they'd have to be to force their own ideas on the English players).
Unfortunately the FA is full of retards so they chose to take a step backwards, and appoint someone average, and I'm being generous.
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22-11-2007, 05:42 PM
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Forget nationality. I don't care if a manger is English, Italian or from the Moon!
- If they can get England winning, and winning with style then that's all I care about. Out of the several candidate that the Media have congured up, I would have to go with Mourinho. He is the best qualified out of the lot; he is also obviously comfortable English customs.
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