Crotia Vs England (wednesday 11th October)

[Werdna]

Originally Posted by c.ronaldo#1

Its terrible the way the media hype these guys up. They look much better for their club teams because they have foreign guys to pass to that makes them look better. Also the foreign guys at their club who don't get the credit they deserve because the media and biased fans are all over the English players dick. Prime example Terry and Lampard get Drogbas and Carvalhios credit.

You've been waiting for this since the world cup...

Should we go over to the Portugese Forum and start explaining why world beater Portugal lost in Poland where England comfortably won in the world cup qualification? Or will their be tears over there and the nonportugese asked to leave?

[andy villa]

to be honest, i expected that result last night and expected the performance..

i watched the game and tbh, i didnt really care and just had a little chuckle to myself over the performance...

knew it would happen with ginger clipboard man in charge and our wins early in his reign were masks of the signs to come....

found it hilarious that smug balding ginger c*nt was writing down notes all evening.. maybe they were letters of support for himself that he was going to send off to the sun newspaper.. i especially found it funny when after robbo missed the ball after it hit the divot and they scored, and he was sat there with his little clipboard writing something down! maybe he wasfilling out a new a job application...

as for the game, shit shit shit...

no other words for it...

crap tactics, no passion, no cohesion and no talent..

piss poor from back to front...

cole was crap..

terry was diabolicle... if he is world class, then i must be his mom...

none of the defence looked comfortable in a back 3 and the wing backs didnt seem to be supporting the defence or the midfield... piss poor..

as for the midfield, what the fuck does lampard have to do to get dropped?!? standing around for 90 mins over the course of his last 23 international appearances, makes him shit in my opinion... fuck all to do with not being able to play with gerrard, as he wasnt there, we just have to face facts that he is just not very good and no amount of set pieces, and deflected goals while being protected by truly world class players at chelsea, is going to hide that fact... he has always been crap for england and he always will be... time to drop him...

off a cliff...

parker worked hard, and seemed the only player up for the fight... no surprise that cipboard boy then decided to sub him then...

up front, rooney showed that he is class, but out of form... some excellent touches, let down by lack of support and lack of confidence..

crouch was just his usual self against a team that isnt the quality of a second division pub team... all well and good scoring a hatful of goals against a side that has all the quality liga athletic, but when he faces a side that has a little more quality than the maltese second division, his actual ability comes to the fore... he is crap.. has always been crap and will always be crap... i would say drop him, off a cliff too, but he could probably step off it himself.. he would still fall over like bambi on ice though...

mclaren is useless, most of the players are useless...

i expect england to lose and play piss poor under mclaren.. and the sad thing is, i predicted as much as soon as he was announced as manager...

its just like watching aston villa of last year...

difference is, i actually cared about aston villa when we were shit...

[Werdna]

Originally Posted by andy villa

mclaren is useless, most of the players are useless...

I believe we have very good players but not a very good team.

I put that mainly down to the way the players are managed for England. As you say they show no passion, look clueless etc.

They need a right kicking up the backside. If the top names don't want to work hard for their country then let "lesser" players play.

You don't need 11 world class players to be successful in international football, you need a world class TEAM.


Just look at what Germany did and are doing...

[andy villa]

i said the same thing to my brother last night...

the shitty managers we have had in recent years pick the supposed best players...

he doesnt pick the best team...

look at ramsay when we won in 66, (dont mean to harp on about it, but it is relevent for this point)... he picked the best team...

jack charlton wasnt the best defender by any stretch of the imagination, but he was picked to do a job and compliment bobby moore..

there are many players playing for england in a comfort zone... dropping beckham didnt send out the right message so ginger clipboard boy needs to start dropping the shit players... mainly lampard and crouch...

if they dont get dropped, then the players need to start proving they arent useless....

[azzurri]

In the end, Im sure England will qualify. The quality of the group is shit. As bad as u might be playing now, the general quality of the group will ensure qualification.

[andy villa]

i have my doubts tbh...

we still have russia home and away and croatia at home and i dont see ginger clipboard boy having any more clue at home against these two, than he did against macedonia...

piss poor manager, attempting to manage over rated primadonnas who quite simply, dont deserve to wear the shirt...

[mr.watford]

i am so glad i didn't bother to watch this. if we qualify i will eat my own face.

[kennethlindheim]

Maybe losing out on the Euro 2008 will be good for England. Then they can look at the way modern football is played and try to implement it into their own game.

[mr.watford]

we should be doing that anyway.

hopefully yesterday was the wake up call they needed.

[andy villa]

we wont do anything until the egos arent guaranteed a start and we dont have a piss poor manager....

[Mighty T.A.L.]

Originally Posted by russe||

McClaren has finally worked out that Carragher was a crap choice to come in and that SWP should of started.

Croach coming off was the right move too, he's been shite.

Crouch was shite?What will you call Rooney?Rooney play awful once again.He runs like a headless chicken.Carragher wasn't crap.Rio and Terry didn't play any better.And that fucking joke old-man-Gary Neville...Than you can talk about shite.If you pick on one player you can pick on all.England international team is so crap.Hole Europe are laughing at them.McClaren is one big fuck who never will succeed with England.You need a strong personallity with a lot of respect to coach England which can give som inspiration and high influence to the players.

[JD]

every player + the manager was truly terrible
sack him

took sven 4 and a half years to lose a qualifier
mc-spack-len just 4 matches

sack the scotsmen

esp afte claiming england domin8d!!???
wot is he on?
they had 15 shots to our 4

richardson obv not england quality, robinson obv not england quality, carrick obv not england quality

and quality players like nolan never get a sniff

we are a crappy longball team who's main source of goals has been set-peices for years
and we drop one of the best deadball players in the world

scandalous idiocy

[Sven]

Need Joe Cole.

[JD]

would have made no difference in this incompetent england set-up

[Sven]

maybe players should stop being played on merit and on form.