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12-09-2006, 09:26 AM
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I do think katanec is avery good manager though
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12-09-2006, 11:04 AM
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Crouch...whether you like him or not at the moment he is doing exactly what a striker is supposed to, score goals. In the summer everyone including Benitez was saying Crouch needs to step up to the next level and score more goals...now he's doing that. To me he's turning more and more into a Heskey, no matter what he does people are going to critisize him for his size and quite funny moves  |
He hasn't scored against anyone decent for England yet, and all the talk of 11 in 10 etc don't diguise the fact he was as crap as anyone else in front of goal at the world cup. |
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12-09-2006, 12:56 PM
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He hasn't scored against anyone decent for England yet, and all the talk of 11 in 10 etc don't diguise the fact he was as crap as anyone else in front of goal at the world cup.
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Well I'm not saying that he's a world class striker, far from it. Just in my opinion he has already done for Liverpool and England more than most would have believed. And this season after recieving a warning from Benitez he's scoring more goals which was always his main problem...and if during this season he even starts scoring important goals against top opposition than I wonder what his faults will be then... |
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12-09-2006, 03:54 PM
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scored twice against greece, who won that pretty important tournament two years ago. |
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12-09-2006, 04:27 PM
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remind me where they finished at the world cup?
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12-09-2006, 04:30 PM
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scored twice against greece, who won that pretty important tournament two years ago.
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Who gives a fuck, the Greece team we faced was crap. |
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12-09-2006, 04:31 PM
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they didn't qualify, so what?
saudi arabia qualified, doesn't mean they are better than greece.
it's pretty ridiculous to say that the european champions are not a decent team.
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12-09-2006, 04:32 PM
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Who gives a fuck, the Greece team we faced was crap.
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if rooney had scored twice against them you would be saying what a fantastic player he was, to score twice against the reigning european champions. |
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12-09-2006, 04:35 PM
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it's pretty ridiculous to say that the european champions are not a decent team.
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It's pretty ridiculous to judge a team on something they did 2 years ago.
The Greece team we played were crap, the team that won Euro 04 was quite different in personel and you can't judge one on the achievements of the other. |
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12-09-2006, 04:36 PM
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if rooney had scored twice against them you would be saying what a fantastic player he was, to score twice against the reigning european champions.
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No I wouldn't, I don't need to give goals against a poor Greece team as proof of how good Rooney is. |
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12-09-2006, 04:40 PM
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they didn't qualify, so what?
saudi arabia qualified, doesn't mean they are better than greece.
it's pretty ridiculous to say that the european champions are not a decent team.
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im sorry, i didnt realise that greece were in the asian qualifying group... |
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12-09-2006, 04:48 PM
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It's pretty ridiculous to judge a team on something they did 2 years ago.
The Greece team we played were crap, the team that won Euro 04 was quite different in personel and you can't judge one on the achievements of the other.
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2004: Nikopolidis, Seitaridis, Kapsis, Dellas, Fyssas, Zagorakis, Katsouranis, Basinas, Giannakopoulos, Vryzas, Charisteas.
2006: Nikopolidis, Fyssas, Dellas, Katsouranis, Antzas, Vyntra, Zagorakis, Karagounis, Giannakopoulos, Samaras, Charisteas.
seven of the team who started in the euro 2004 final started against england. basinas came on at half time, so that's eight, and karagounis would have played in the euro 2004 final had he not been suspended. oh, and they have the same manager.
sort of blows a hole in that argument. |
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12-09-2006, 04:52 PM
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greece are shit...
they were lucky to win 2 years ago, and the fact that they were hammered by england proves how shit they are...
that and the fact that they didnt qualify for the world cup either....
crouch is shit, and has only scored against shit sides...
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12-09-2006, 04:54 PM
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not lucky, just good at what they did. it may have been boring but definitely not lucky. |
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12-09-2006, 04:54 PM
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crouch is shit, and has only scored against shit sides...
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chelsea?
p.s i know you mean national sides.
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