A look back at the NI game.....

[The Fratton Roar]

Originally Posted by russe||

Sven doesn't do good substitutions he managed to completely confuse most of the team with his subs and made them play worse which surprised me cos I didn't think it was possible.

Fratton you want to join my campain? (see my sig for details)

Campaign joined. Did you notice name number 43 of the signatures is Paul Jewell? I'm sure he could do a better job.

One thing that has struck me about Sven recently is his complete lack of invention when it comes to mid-game ideas - even with the awful formation he had us playing, he had nothing up his sleeve for when things didn't go right. He never considered simplifying things by switching back to 4-4-2; he never considered mixing it up a bit and bringing off the lazy and half-asleep Michael Owen and bringing on the closest thing we have to a target man, Darrent Bent; he brought on a holding midfielder with 8 minutes to go; he never considered telling Rooney and SWP to interchange a little bit in the first half to mix it up. He is completely unable to keep his opposite number guessing but still be in control - as soon as he makes a change neither he nor the players know what's going on.

Look at Chelsea - as soon as the players even see who is stripping off on the sidelines, they know who will be coming off, what the formation change will be, and what is now expected of them before it even happens. Sven's players have to play for 10 mins before they even work out what their new position is, let alone how to play it.

[Spursmeister]

YEP SACK THE BALD ONE... HE HAS PROVED YET AGAIN TO BE FCUKING USELESS, END OF...

I was gobsmacked with his substitutions (what's new) and someones got to tell him that Hargreaves should be nowhere near the England side..

Rooney acted like a spoilt brat, I really thought we'd seen the back of that side of him, seem not... Still being stuck out on the left wing didn't help his fragile temper...

Lampard looked a bit better than he did against Wales, Gerrard, still way off the pace...

SWP looked very good, shame he was taken off!

Owen, got none of that service that he needs...

Beckahm looked good again and proved to break up a few attacks but his passing is less effective from so deep...

The back 4 were anything but sharp, G, Neville needs to hurry back to spare us any more Luke Young torture... Carra looked lost a times, Ferdi looked like he was somking something, only Ashley Cole really looked committed but even he got caught out a few times...

Robbo cannot be faulted for the great goal by Healey (fantastic strike, Owen take note) nobody in the back 4 was watching him and nobody anywhere even tried to intercept the guy who made the pass to Healey...

J Cole did look far better than he did on Saturday but tried to keep possesion a little too long at times and got closed down, Defoe came on too late to really hit the pace of the game...

All in all, Sack the fcuking Swede, he has lost the plot totally now (not that he ever had it per-say)

[CantonaStillGod]

Originally Posted by Spursmeister

J Cole did look far better than he did on Saturday but tried to keep possesion a little too long at times and got closed down

I didn't see the Wales game but if Cole is supposed to have played better last night than on saturday then seriously, what the **** is he doing in the squad he was playing like a spoilt ****ing child determined to **** around with the ball every time he got it, he maybe got 2 crosses in which both drifted over the bar then he decided to **** off wherever he felt like. WHY was WRight-Phillips taken off exactly? Because he was having a half decent game? One of the only ones that was as well. I don't mind Beckham in that position he played some brilliant balls but Gerrard and Lampard just CANNOT play together, wakey wakey Sven some of the best teams in the world leave players out - ok they're both very talented but Argentina used to swap Batistuta and Caniggia, Italy the same with Totti and Del Piero - THEY DONT ALL HAVE TO PLAY! Defence was a joke and do not even get me started on Rooney's position because I will never ever stop I swear to ****ing god.

[Spursmeister]

Originally Posted by CantonaStillGod

Gerrard and Lampard just CANNOT play together, wakey wakey Sven some of the best teams in the world leave players out - ok they're both very talented but Argentina used to swap Batistuta and Caniggia, Italy the same with Totti and Del Piero - THEY DONT ALL HAVE TO PLAY!

Exactly, something is begging to be done, a shake up is very much needed and a little fresh blood in the form of Carrick or Parker could turn things around and give us more of a defensive/ball winning bite...

[c.ronaldo#1]

Originally Posted by russe||

this is from football365 and pretty much sums it up:
1) Is it possible to play David Beckham and Wayne Rooney in the same team in their best positions? Playing Beckham as the 'quarterback' pushes Rooney wide, where he's negated, while playing Rooney behind Owen pushes Beckham wide, and he hasn't been effective there for years. What the hell's the solution?

2) Why don't England players look like they give a monkey's a*** about playing for England? Where's the drive? Where's the ambition? That can't all be blamed on Sven...

3) How did England fail to create a single clear-cut chance against a defence that included players from Plymouth and Southampton (reserves)?

4) Should Wayne Rooney have been allowed to come out on the pitch for the second half after telling his captain to 'f*** off'?

5) Has the BBC ever displayed such ridiculous nepotism as to appoint a father of one of the players to be a pundit on the game? What's next? Wayne Rooney's mum taking a break from serving school dinners?

6) Does someone want to tell Sven that picking his 11 best players and sending them out onto the pitch does not constitute a £1m-a-year job?

7) Owen Hargreaves - why?

8) What formation were we playing at the end? Does anybody know? Does Sven know?

9) Why did Rio Ferdinand think that standing with one arm raised three yards behind the rest of his defence would stop David Healy running through to score?

10) Does Sven ever, ever look like he cares? If he shows that little passion in bed, how the hell does he get so many ladies?

11) Is Frank Lampard's new Luna keeping him up all night? Awful Frank, just awful.

12) Do Newcastle still think they've got a 20-goal-a-season man?

13) How cool were the Northern Ireland fans? Anyone other English folk wish they were wearing green on Wednesday night?

14) Will Ian Paisley be laughing or crying?

1. I think Beckham has played well in the last 2 games, and so has SWP who deserves to start. Sven is going to have to drop either Gerrard or Lampard.
2. True people say he sits there clueless but people shouldn't need inspiration from a manager when they are playing Brazil in the World cup.
3. Capaldi has been on the bench for us this season LOL.
4. Wayne Rooney can tell who ever he wants to F*** off he is Englands best player.
5. Ian Wright was a BBC pundit before his son was even in the squad. SWP has earned his place in the squad.
6. I thought Sven was getting 4 million a year.
7. Owen Hargreaves shouldn't be in the squad let alone on the pitch. I doubt Luxemburg or the Faroe Islands would want him.
8. 4-5-7-2-1?
9. Rio earns £120,000 he works hard for that money.
10. Sven has money women are gold diggers.
11. If Franks kid isn't keeping him awake maybee he shares a room with Rooney whois banging a hooker or Beckham is having another affair in the room next to him.
12. Newcastle have Souness as their manager they believe Owen can fly.
13. I wear Green every week its kinda cool.
14. Hes crying.

[kennethlindheim]

This England side have no heart and if Eriksson can't even get a decent performance from a bloody good group of players then he has surely got to go.

[MUFC]

Trust me if sven is sacked, a year later you all will be asking Sam Allerdyce for example if he took over to get sacked.

Every england manager is never given a chance, that is svens first qualifying defeat. I really dont get england fans, i seriously dont. Losing to the eventual winners of the world cup, losing on penelties to euro cup finalists.

[The Fratton Roar]

Originally Posted by c.ronaldo#1

4. Wayne Rooney can tell who ever he wants to F*** off he is Englands best player.
9. Rio earns £120,000 he works hard for that money.

Firstly, Rooney should not be telling anyone to f*** off, let alone anyone on his team, and especially not his captain. As great a player as Rooney is, his behaviour is a disgrace sometimes. And as for Beckham's captaincy - the fact that a player eleven years younger than him told him to f*** off shows the nature of his captaincy. Passionate, but weak. Would any player have ever told Tony Adams or Stuart Pearce to f*** off? No way in hell, because they were scared of them. Same goes for JT at Chelsea. The players respect and like Beckham, but they're not scared of him. Same goes for Sven, that's why they never do what he tells them to, on the rare occasions he does come up with a game plan.

[The Fratton Roar]

Originally Posted by c.ronaldo#1

4. Wayne Rooney can tell who ever he wants to F*** off he is Englands best player.
9. Rio earns £120,000 he works hard for that money.

And Rio works hard for his money? I hope that's a joke.

[Mikey]

Eriksson MUST BE SACKED!!!!!!

[MUMUFMUFCOK!]

Originally Posted by The Fratton Roar

Firstly, Rooney should not be telling anyone to f*** off, let alone anyone on his team, and especially not his captain. As great a player as Rooney is, his behaviour is a disgrace sometimes. And as for Beckham's captaincy - the fact that a player eleven years younger than him told him to f*** off shows the nature of his captaincy. Passionate, but weak. Would any player have ever told Tony Adams or Stuart Pearce to f*** off? No way in hell, because they were scared of them. Same goes for JT at Chelsea. The players respect and like Beckham, but they're not scared of him. Same goes for Sven, that's why they never do what he tells them to, on the rare occasions he does come up with a game plan.

Seriously, I like footballers to tell their teammates to eff off all the time. I like it when they have huge slanging matches and fights break out in training. It shows to me they care. Adams/Pearce/Terry will have been told to eff off numerous times by younger players - and I'm glad. At least Rooney showed a bit of passion last night...the same can't be said for some of his teammates.

[mr.watford]

Originally Posted by MUFC

Trust me if sven is sacked, a year later you all will be asking Sam Allerdyce for example if he took over to get sacked.

Every england manager is never given a chance, that is svens first qualifying defeat. I really dont get england fans, i seriously dont. Losing to the eventual winners of the world cup, losing on penelties to euro cup finalists.

we havent played well under sven since 2002, his time is up i'm afraid

[The Fratton Roar]

Originally Posted by MUMUFMUFCOK!

Seriously, I like footballers to tell their teammates to eff off all the time. I like it when they have huge slanging matches and fights break out in training. It shows to me they care. Adams/Pearce/Terry will have been told to eff off numerous times by younger players - and I'm glad. At least Rooney showed a bit of passion last night...the same can't be said for some of his teammates.

Personally I'd rather players showed aggression in their football rather than their language - that shows they care, and it gets far better results than arguing all the time.

[c.ronaldo#1]

Originally Posted by The Fratton Roar

And Rio works hard for his money? I hope that's a joke.

It was. But unlike alot of other people i believe that football players should get paid alot of money since football is a business and football players are the brand.

[hanuma]

whilst sacking svenn now would be utterly pointless he does need to lay his cards on the table and make clear and coherant decisions.

i.e. play what he thinks is the best system with what he thinks are the best players for it;

which he says is;

................robinson
neville.....terry.....ferdinand....cole
..................butt
.....beckham lampard gerrard
...........rooney....owen

imo this system (when implemented) has proven very lucrative....in recent tournaments however there have been some problems.

in the world cup there was no plan b.
in the eruopean championships there was no nicky butt and wayne rooney got injured.