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[The Fratton Roar]

Originally Posted by Jager

That's all cool, and my post was not a dig at you, even though it sound like it. Sorry.

No problem buddy. I thought it was probably a typo anyway - having a dig didn't seem like you in the first place.

And I've calmed down now.

[mr.watford]

Originally Posted by Jager

Your Sven tirade is getting old. Face the reality that he is going to coach until the World Cup, and then the FA will dump him on how they do.

Not true, they cant afford to and they dont have the balls to anyway, the only way Sven will go is if he leaves by his own will.

[mr.watford]

Originally Posted by russe||

SWP was shocking

Are you serious? He was our best player along with Rooney and Robinson and I couldnt see why Sven brought him off, probably because he was playing too well

[russe||]

Originally Posted by mr.watford

Are you serious? He was our best player along with Rooney and Robinson

Rubbish, Beckham was our best player.

Rooney was virtually anonomous as he had to drop back to pick up the ball (cos no one was creating anything for him).

Robinson did one thing all gae and although he did it fcuking well it hadly makes him our best player.

[mr.watford]

I forgot Beckham, he did play well but he wasnt our best player

Rooney did play well, he certainly wasnt anonymous, and he did get chances

[russe||]

Originally Posted by mr.watford

Rooney did play well, he certainly wasnt anonymous, and he did get chances

No he didn't he only had one chance in the whole game and that came from a welsh mistake. How else was he to get chances when there was fcuk all service to him?

[robaldo]

i dont think SWP was as bad as people are making him out to be, first international start wasnt a bad performance i dont think

[mr.watford]

It wasnt his first start internationally, and he wasnt bad at all, he was far far better than Cole

[Jager]

Originally Posted by mr.watford

Not true, they cant afford to and they dont have the balls to anyway, the only way Sven will go is if he leaves by his own will.

That is fact, they can't afford too?

[russe||]

Originally Posted by Jager

That is fact, they can't afford too?

Yes, the English FA aren't the richest (some fcukwit thought it would be a good idea to move to some really expensive offices in Soho). They are playing Sven a lot of money and if he was sacked they would have to hand his a large chunk of his mega salary.

[Jager]

Again, this is not Sven's fault, this is your FAs fault and bad planning.

[russe||]

You are right it isn't Svens fault we can't sack him.

[MUMUFMUFCOK!]

Basically after it was revealed he was pimping himself about and meeting other clubs, namely Chelsea, the FA instead of reprimanding him they rewarded him with a largely increased salary.

The FA are just one great big bumbling clusterfcuk of an organisation. Incompetant, incapable, incosistant morons who couldn't run a píss-up in a brewery.

Everything about them stinks.

[telfordwhite]

The main problem for me was the failure to use almost total possession to give the ball to SWP and cole, there were numerous occasions when they were available but we preferred to just retain possession by tapping the ball around in front of the Welsh defence rather than going for their throats.

Before it went pear shaped with baffling substitutions we looked untroubled by the Welsh who were worn out from chasing shadows by half time.

More of a killer instinct would surely have resulted in more goals and I think a little more thought in the finer points of using yesterdays formation would make it work.

[Spursmeister]

Luke young was terrible, gave tha ball away far too much, got caught in possession in dangerous areas and proves just how much we still need good old G, Neville...

SWP look very good, really threatening and creative and should have stayed on the field...

J.Cole has all but booked his place in the starting 11 on Wednesday by scoring against Wales, his only notable contribution to the game...

Becks, Good work rate and some typical killer passing, he even broke up a few Wales attacks which really showed another side to his game, I'd like to see him play there again...

Gerrard, was he playing...??? and Lampard, was he playing...??? both were frighteningly off the pace of the game and neither made any recognised impact on the game...

Rooney, he worked very hard and tried his best to use his creativity but was inafective playing alone up front. He wasn't getting the service that J.Cole, SWP, Garro and Lamps were supposed to be giving him and therefore had to track back to get the ball himself, i.e. straying far out of an effective position...

Defence looked as good as they needed to be and A.Cole got forward well on aoccasions...

Robbo was good in goal and pulled off a top-draw save against Hartson...

Substitutions, Hargreaves always seems to add perfectly to a dead game, he never seems to add anything to the defence or attack, why is he picked again???
Defoe, looked lost and barely got any service as Rooney hadn't before him in that possition, also didn't get a good run out only getting 25 minutes...
Richardson, ha! he'll be a good player in the future but why was he bought on to play in such a delicate 1-0 game, what the hell was his role? surely a defensive player was more the order of the day, and one with experience also... please don't say that Hargreaves was there to do that job...

Well that's my 2-bobs worth, my thoughts on the 4-5-1 formation, I thought we looked pretty awsome in the first 10 minutes and with SWP nearly getting a shot at goal in the first 30 seconds I thought we were in for a good game, oh I was wrong.......

Honestly, I'd like to see the formation given one last try against NI on Weds and with Owen playing this time round well see it's true potential. Still, I think that either Gerrard or Lampard should be dropped because neither are anywhere near their best, bring in Carrick or Parker to play the holding role and put Becks alongside Gerro/Lamps whichever plays..... more solid!