League considers scrapping draws - TalkSoccer

**kyan** · 14-03-2007, 08:24 PM

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League considers scrapping draws

The Football League board is to consider a proposal to scrap draws and decide matches by penalty shoot-outs, BBC Five Live understands.

The idea will be discussed by Football League chairmen and chief executives at a board meeting on Thursday.

No timescale has been given for implementing the change if the chairmen go ahead with the proposal.

"Why can't we just have a draw?" Bournemouth boss Kevin Bond told the Daily Echo newspaper.

The idea was originally put forward in the recent Football League Fans Survey.

There are currently two proposals to be considered - a traditional penalty shoot-out or where a player would have eight seconds to try and score after receiving the ball on the half-way line.

"I don't agree with it because I think it's too much of a radical change," Bond added.

"I'm very open-minded and I think certain laws of the game need to move with the times but that would be too much of a drastic measure."

BBC SPORT | Football | League considers scrapping draws

The fans wanted this

getting rid of a draw would be a terrible idea imo cos then it would mean there are only 2 ways of scoring points so the teams would be separated by a lot more.

I can see some motivation for doing this, by ruling out the draw then you might tackle negative football but then again some teams might still play for penalties cos they have a better chance of winning.

Penalties also aren't always the fairest way to decide a game.

strange proposal, I doubt it'll go through.

**Huckerbys right foot** · 14-03-2007, 08:27 PM

a disgrace to football if they get rid of a draw

end of the day a draw is a point ...that point could be cruical(spelling) for any team

**kyan** · 14-03-2007, 08:30 PM

Exactly, and draws make title races/relegation battles far more interesting.

The only way I might accept this idea is if there was a different amount of points, so it's 3 for a straight win, 2 for a win on pens, 1 for a loss on pens, 0 for a straight loss. but even then I'm not sure.

This doesn't apply to the Premiership though I don't think.

**Jager** · 14-03-2007, 08:36 PM

They could still give the loser of the draw a point, and the winner three. Problem solved.

MUMUFMUFCOK! · 14-03-2007, 09:22 PM

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They could still give the loser of the draw a point, and the winner three. Problem solved.

All well and good except it doesn't solve the problem that it fundamentally changes one of the most basic ideas of football FOR NO FUCKING REASON.

**russe||** · 14-03-2007, 09:40 PM

Kyan you're 18 days early for this sort of rubbish.

If this was to happen though all fans should stop watching/going to games in protest.

Werdna · 14-03-2007, 11:35 PM

Geez, this sounds like something that the Americans would suggest...

**Jager** · 15-03-2007, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by MUMUFMUFCOK!

All well and good except it doesn't solve the problem that it fundamentally changes one of the most basic ideas of football FOR NO FUCKING REASON.

I didn't fukin propose this dude. And its not American or Italy we are talking about here.

**kennethlindheim** · 15-03-2007, 08:58 AM

Crazy idea.

**Mighty T.A.L.** · 15-03-2007, 12:37 PM

Crazy and stupid...

Werdna · 15-03-2007, 03:50 PM

Phew...

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League's shoot-out plans savaged
The League's plans have been shot down
The League's plans have been shot down
Football managers and chairmen have laughed off proposals to decide drawn Football League games with a penalty shoot-out.

League chairman Lord Mawhinney wants to introduce shoot-outs to allocate a bonus point at the end of a drawn game.

Bristol City chairman Steve Lansdown has described the plans as "a crackpot idea" and his Cardiff counterpart Peter Risdale thinks it is a "nonsense idea".

Sheffield United boss Neil Warnock said he "detests penalty shoot-outs".

It won't make the game more exciting
Cardiff chairman Peter Ridsdale

The Blades boss added: "They have probably got little else to discuss on the agenda if that is the main directive.

"I don't see anything wrong with the Championship.

"If they want to titivate and mess about they should try to get to Fifa and get the divers and the people who are injured treated while the game is in progress to get the game moving quicker.

"They should try to do constructive things."

Bluebirds chairman Ridsdale is adamant that introducing a penalty shoot-out would not improve football as a spectacle.

"It won't make the game more exciting," he added.

"People will come to Cardiff, stick 11 men behind the ball hoping for a draw and the try to beat us on penalties."

Lansdown told BBC Radio Four: "I think it came from one of Lord Mawhinney's 'eureka!' moments.

"Chairmen I've spoken to think on the same lines as me, and managers make it clear it's not something they'd want."

A good score draw is as exciting as a win sometimes

Bristol City chairman Steve Lansdown

The Football League will discuss the proposal at its regular monthly meeting on Thursday and if it gains enough support it will go forward as a motion to change the rules at the League's annual general meeting in June.

Under the proposal, both sides will still get a point from a draw, but at the end of the game a penalty shoot-out will provide a bonus point.

Lansdown added: "We should never try to dissuade people from coming up with ideas on how to improve the game and we shouldn't be scared to implement new ideas.

"The idea is to make games more exciting and get a result, but you can meddle too much.

**Mighty T.A.L.** · 15-03-2007, 04:14 PM

Yeah, that's a relief.But I didn't expect anything else to be honest.The idea is so stupid.

mr.watford · 15-03-2007, 05:09 PM

would be a terrible idea, good to see the managers and chairmen criticising it.

**Sven** · 15-03-2007, 06:30 PM

they said "fans like penaltys" and managers hate them, tbh if I saw penalty shoot out every day, it would take all the excitment out of it , about after 1 week.

What moron came up with this idea.

**kyan** · 15-03-2007, 06:38 PM

problem is this isn't over, a couple of hours after the article Werdna posted was released this one was:

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League to look at shoot-out idea

Penalty shoot-outs to decide drawn games is one of the ideas a Football League working party will investigate.

The League's 72 club chairmen set up the working party to look at ways of making the game more attractive.

The idea of shoot-outs to award a bonus point has been roundly condemned by managers and some club chairmen.

League chairman Lord Mawhinney said: "It's important to look from time to time at what we're offering and whether it's as good as it could be."

The proposal for drawn games would see each side awarded a point, but a penalty shoot-out would decide the destination of a bonus point.

If the idea gains enough support, it will be presented as a motion for a rule change at the Football League's annual general meeting in June.

Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger said: "I saw this in my first year managing in Japan - it did not have spectacular results."

He added: "In extra-time they played a sudden death goal and if no-one scored they had penalties.

"The draw is part of the culture of the game and I would not like that to disappear."

The idea was originally put forward in the recent Football League Fans Survey.

Lord Mawhinney added: "Managers may hate shoot-outs but fans love them. The chairmen decided to use this proposal to have a broader look at a range of ideas that might refresh our product.

"Some people were strongly against it, some people were in favour of it, but on both sides people said: 'let's be constructive and have a broad examination of what we have on offer'."

Bournemouth boss Kevin Bond told the Daily Echo newspaper said: "Why can't we just have a draw?"

"I don't agree with it because I think it's too much of a radical change.

"I'm very open-minded and I think certain laws of the game need to move with the times but that would be too much of a drastic measure."