The Barcelona Clear-Out

[Pat Murphy]

Spanish Debate: Barcelona Clear-Out Beckons?

A nine-point gap and another winter of discontent have sealed Barcelona's status as second-best for yet another campaign. It also looks like some the old guard are preparing to move on as the blaugrana start to rebuild for next season. Ewan Macdonald looks at the prospects of a Camp Nou clear-out this summer...

As Barcelona trudged off the Nuevo Colombino pitch after succumbing to a 2-2 draw with Recreativo, thoughts inevitably turned towards the next Liga campaign, for with Real Madrid set to face struggling Murcia the next day, it was odds-on that the blaugrana would end the weekend nine points off the pace.

This they did, and it now looks as if the Liga race is well and truly over. Barcelona have just the Champions League to play for, effectively, after what has been yet another dissatisfying campaign. It's a far cry from the double season of 2005-06, and indeed that now seems like ancient history.

So, too, do certain squad members. It's been less than a year since Ronaldinho was still putting in match-winning performances, but now he looks to be on his way out. Deco is another one who may have played his last meaningful game in the blaugrana shirt. Sylvinho? Ezquerro? The list goes on.

Indeed, while Barcelona saw just four in and six out (excluding loan/promotio n deals) last summer, it seems likely that there'll be more changes this time around. It may not be a Real Madrid-style trolley-dash across Europe, but nonetheless, there could be major alterations in the offing.

But based on what we know, and what the club's said, it may not be the obvious positions that change.

Cleared For Departure

What is almost certain is that Ronaldinho is going. The Milan sides are having a merry old battle to sign him, agent Roberto de Assis is glad-handing across Europe in an attempt to seal the best deal, and the player himself has, not to put too fine a point on it, chucked it. However, as this is both seemingly inevitable and not too big a deal - while 'Dinho was once the world's best player in the blaugrana, he's done very little this season - we must not dwell on it.

Of slightly more import is Deco. Another one who has seem great days at Camp Nou, this season has been one to forget. The arrival of Touré Yaya signalled a more defensive direction for the central midfield slot, while both Xavi and Iniesta have had all-but guaranteed berths further out. The Portuguese, then, isn't happy - and even at one point this season declared that he did not wish to play defensively in the middle - and could well head to the Premier League.

Gianluca Zambrotta is said to be ripe for a return to AC Milan, and to be fair, that would do both him and Barcelona a world of good. He's a superb player on his day, but he has yet to well and truly adapt to the Spanish game, and as such must be considered somewhat dispensable.

Then there's supporting cast. Sylvinho, who is something of an underrated player in my estimation, will most likely leave as his contract ends; so too will the almost-forgotten Santiago Ezquerro. Edmílson will almost certainly be told that his own deal won't be renewed, and Lilian Thuram could be moved on due to his age and his own deal's expiration.

A lot to think about, then - but these want-aways and contract-enders are only the beginning.

Who Else Should Go?

One name absent from the above list is Victor Valdés, but it is debatable that the departures should begin with the embattled goalkeeper.

Barcelona do have the second-best defensive record in the Liga, and Valdés has put in some fine performances this season, but it is becoming apparent that he is not world-class. Yes, he perhaps has a case to be in the Spanish squad, perhaps at the expense of Palop, but who can really say that he's on a par with Iker Casillas?

Well, Johan Cruyff implied it, for one thing, saying that Valdés produces fewer saves than Casillas only out of the fact that Real Madrid are apparently flimsier at the back, but the Barça man does it just as well.

Sure, there is a case for that. Valdés does save the ball just as nicely as Casillas. But what Casillas offers is an almost rock-steady consistency, while Valdés does not. For all his qualities, he is cursed with a tendency towards errors, and that is the kiss of death for a goalkeeper looking to become a legend at one of the world's biggest clubs. This, in turn, spills over into the defensive line, who may play with a bit more shakiness.

Were Valdés not a club product and a local boy - a symbol of Barcelona - he may well have been replaced more easily, but as it stands, he must be treated with caution. He's not a bad goalkeeper, to be sure, but if the blaugrana are to avoid situations like last season's Champions League elimination, then they'll need to put head before heart.

Whisper it, but this may also apply to Carles Puyol. Please note: I am not for one minute suggesting that the captain needs to be removed from the club, or even from the first team - he is there to stay, and rightly so. Nonetheless, I feel that more cover is needed at centre-back due to his age, and a tendency this season to lose concentration.

To be fair to the captain, he is trying to marshal a back line that, while solid for the vast bulk of games, shares with its goalkeeper a maddening tendency towards brief but eventful self-destruction. Much of that is down to the squad. Gabriel Milito has been a decent, if uninspired addition to the squad, but the likes of Lilian Thuram are starting to show their age, while Rafael Márquez is so dogged by injury that he cannot find consistency. Both have had their day in the sun, but younger blood could be required not only as a partner to Puyol, but also as an understudy. Ezequiel Garay is the obvious choice, but others are available, too.

At left-back, Eric Abidal is here to stay, but he's yet to win over many of the fans. With the aforementioned Sylvinho already being on the way out, then, there is scope for competition for the Frenchman who, to my mind, has in fact been given something of a raw deal. Zambrotta, of course, needs replacing. And Oleguer is under contract until 2010, and while he did form one of the great defences of 2005-06, he's fast falling out of favour and could be set for a move elsewhere.

To summarise the above, fully 50% of the defence - he who partners Puyol, and the right-back - may be altered wholesale, while the other central position and left back could also see alteration, but the one spot that may not change - that of goalkeeper - is maybe the most urgent. A strange situation, to be sure.

Elsewhere, Eidur Gudjohnsen is under contract for another two seasons, but may be tired of a lack of opportunities. Could a return to the Premiership beckon? Finally, Giovani dos Santos is said to have an uncertain future at the club, although how much of this is paper talk remains to be seen.

And Those Who Stay?

For all these departures both probable and desirable, though, there remains the makings of a world-class team, and nowhere is that more true than up front. Yes, the "Fantastic Four" hype has been a lead balloon, but the forward line, for all its problems, remains formidable. Even with Messi out, Barcelona seldom fail to score, and considering that Rijkaard currently has to shoehorn one of Eto'o and Bojan - both on form, but both decidely central - into a wide position, that's no mean feat.

Indeed, for all the criticism that the likes of Henry have endured - and it is not without foundation, that's for sure - it often seems to come at the expense of a back line and goalkeeping position in far greater peril than the strikeforce.

One possible change, though, may be required to compensate for Ronaldinho. At the moment, Henry sometimes fills in on the left, but despite his experience at drifting out wide and cutting inside to meet through balls while at Arsenal, he has not yet made the position his own. The coach could either continue working at it, or maybe give Andrés Iniesta further scope to play the 'Dinho position - something he has already done to decent effect this season. That leaves a gap in midfield, of course, but it's one that Deco's successor may well fill.

But whatever happens, the likes of Iniesta, Xavi, Eto'o and Puyol remain: in other words, the spine of a team that, while not always on form, certainly has the star power and the capability to mount a fair challenge. As for the rest, it's about filling in the blanks, and if Barcelona can make a more thorough fist of it this summer than last, then the fans could finally have a reason to cheer.

Ewan Macdonald, Goal.com

Goal.com - Editorial/Comment - Spanish Debate: Barcelona Clear-Out Beckons?


Quite long but some good points. I'll use this as the overall thread for the transfer comings and goings for the season.

[Pat Murphy]

Players that will stay

Puyol
Xavi
Iniesta
Messi
Yaya Toure
Abidal
Milito
Bojan Krkic
Henry
Valdes
Pinto
Pique
Keita
Caceres

Players that might leave

Deco
Ronaldinho
Eto'o
Gudjohnsen
Marquez
Oleguer
Sylvinho (free) - offered a 12 month extension

Players that will leave

Edmilson - free transfer to Villarreal
Giovani dos Santos - €6m to Tottenham (may rise to €11m)
Zambrotta - €8.5m to Milan
Thuram (free)
Ezquerro (free)
Jorquera (free)

Pretty amazing that only 9 players are guaranteed to stay even despite our poor season.

We should get 36m for Zambrotta, Deco and Roanldinho but we still need to buy replacemenmts for all 3 plus backups for the free transfer players.

[Pat Murphy]

First ridiculous rumour.

Fichajes, renovaciones y traspasos | SPORT | Barça

Barca prepare "OPERACIÓN RENOVE". In which we get Dani Alves to replace Zambrotta, costing a net £16m. We get Cesc Fabregas to replace Deco, costing us a net £16m and then renewing Bojan's contract to create a Barca for the future.

Alves maybe, Cesc I don't think so.

[Oliver_Kahn]

Originally Posted by Pat Murphy

First ridiculous rumour.

Fichajes, renovaciones y traspasos | SPORT | Barça

Barca prepare "OPERACIÓN RENOVE". In which we get Dani Alves to replace Zambrotta, costing a net £16m. We get Cesc Fabregas to replace Deco, costing us a net £16m and then renewing Bojan's contract to create a Barca for the future.

Alves maybe, Cesc I don't think so.

Alves maybe, but not for less than 30m €.

Cesc is untouchable I'd say, at least for now.

[LAF]

I can see you floating about Aguero aswell. But you won't get him.

It's hard to tell what players you are after as you may change your formation.

[Pat Murphy]

Mundo Deportivo - Se busca zurdo

Goal.com - Barcelona - Barcelona Eye David Silva To Replace Ronaldinho

Finally. I've been on the David Silva for Barca campaign for months and now the papers have finally caught up.

David Silva is being linked to Barca as the Ronaldinho replacement on the LW. Bonuses about David Silva is that he's a winger and a playmaker, he's fast, he can find space anywhere, he has a lethal shot, can use both feet (Chelsea can testify) and very importantly for Barca, can play CM so can be the backup for Iniesta and Xavi when they're out. He should be available for less than 18m euros if he can force the move out.

Alves is a bit expensive but if I wasn't worrying about cash then...... Absolute dream team........

-------------------- Eto'o
- D.Silva -------------------------- Messi
---------- Iniesta -------- Xavi
-------------------- Yaya
- Abidal -- Puyol ------ Milito --- Alves
-------------------- VV

...and a new coach and that's my Birthday and Christmas presents sorted.

[Pat Murphy]

Txiki, en Lyon por Benzema | SPORT | Barça

Txiki flies to France to watch the Cup Quarter Final between Metz and Lyon to scout Karim Benzema.

His price is 30m euros but I only see Barca going for him if Henry leaves.

[santos6]

David Silva would be a great buy for Barça. Since he is versatile as a LW or #10 sort of he would be a good buy, but I hope we don't buy anyone until Rijkaard is either going to stay for sure or leave.

[Pat Murphy]

Good point Santos.

Deco, Márquez And Zambrotta Tempt AC Milan

AC Milan are weighing making a block bid to sign Deco, Rafael Márquez and Gianluca Zambrotta along with Ronaldinho from Barcelona at the end of the current season, according to a report.

The Italian giants are planning a rebuilding programme that has already seen them linked to several players joining the club and several established veterans leaving in the summer, AS state.

A deal to sign Ronaldinho looks set to be completed, but Milan could be tempted to make an offer for three other star names that may be leaving Camp Nou as Barça themselves look to make changes after another unconvincing campaign.

Zambrotta appears to be a done deal, but there has been no official announcement and the Blaugrana would welcome the chance to see both Deco and Márquez off-loaded. The Portuguese star's form and attitude has been a worry since the middle of last term and the fact that there has been little sign that he will return to his best, the club are prepared to let him leave.

Márquez too has seen competition in his positions rise with Gaby Milito coming in at centre back and Touré Yaya being signed to play as a defensive midfielder last summer. While the Mexican is still a popular figure at Barça, the chance to cash in on him and reinvest in other areas may well prove to be too tempting for president Joan Laporta and sporting director Txiki Begiristain.

Milan are set for a busy few months as their failure to compete in the league or in Europe has seen calls for an overhaul of the squad. Ronaldinho and Andriy Shevchenko are certain to join, while there is space for virtually one player in every other position and the Barça trio could well fill in a few holes.

Ian Dixon, Goal.com

Goal.com - AC Milan - Deco, Márquez And Zambrotta Tempt AC Milan

Are Milan really going to try and create their new revolution with 4 aging Barca rejects? I don't think so, I'll pay for the combined postage if they do.

Although from a Barca point of view Milan have already pretty much signed Zambo and Ronnie so we'd like them to take Rafa in the same deal. No Rafa means Barca will go for a young replacement to be the no.2/no.3 CB, which will be Ezequiel Garay.

[santos6]

I rather not let Marquez go though, the fact that he plays DM pretty well is a good reason to keep him.

[Pat Murphy]

Marquez is a good no.2 DM for Yaya and a good 3rd CB for Puyol/Milito but the problem is that he's one of the party boys that party and don't train. Last month when he was supposed to be rehabilitating from his injury he was caught partying in Madrid with another woman.

I think Ronaldinho and Deco have already been cut and Marquez will be cut if Barca get a semi-decent offer like 7-8m euros just to try and cleanse the squad of the bad influences.

Barca would then be linked to Christian Poulsen as the no.1 target to replace Marquez, he was possibly the signing of last season, had a great campaign last year and another good one this season. He's available for 10m euros this summer as that's his buyout clause and available on a free transfer next summer. Problem with Poulsen is that he's a volatile little twat and I'm not sure I want that influence in the Barca dressing room. Example of his temper was last season when he punched a Swedish player in the stomach and downed him in last years Euro qualifier, getting sent off of course.

[santos6]

I am not Poulsens biggest fan either, he's a good player though but not a Barça style player.

[Pat Murphy]

Locos por Benzema | SPORT | Barça

Not a lot of rumours today. The one big one is Karim Benzema, Lyon have asked for 50m euros. That will be the starting demand price for the following bidding war but hopefully Barca isn't a part of it as we'll probably have Henry next season and Eto'o and Bojan who we need to develop so he becomes world class.

[Pat Murphy]

Van Der Vaart To Replace Ronaldinho At Barça

Barcelona have held preliminary talks with Rafael Van der Vaart's agent as they hope to sign the Holland international when Ronaldinho's move to AC Milan is finally made official.

The Blaugrana have asked the Rossoneri not to make any statement regarding the move for the Brazilian until after the Catalan outfit have played their final Champions League game of the season.

If Frank Rijkaard's team are eliminated by Manchester United at the semi final stage then Milan will be given the green light to announce Ronaldinho's imminent arrival, but if Barça progress they will be asked to wait until after the final.

With Ronaldinho set to sign a five-year deal at the San Siro that will see his wages rise from the €8m-per-year he earned at Barcelona to €12m-a-year, the Blaugrana will have more finances to play with.

Having been linked to several players in recent weeks to play down the left, Txiki Begiristain and Rijkaard are already talking to Van der Vaart agent, Bayram Tutumlu, about the player's interest in a move to the club.

The Hamburg star has Spanish heritage and has often been linked with a move to Real Madrid, but their interest cooled last summer and now Barça are set to offer him the chance to shine in la Primera.

Ian Dixon, Goal.com

Goal.com - Barcelona - Van Der Vaart To Replace Ronaldinho At Barça

Doesn't say anything on the price tho which will be important for me.