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Originally Posted by NJ10
few points for you Eric.
Spain did win the European Championships. 1964. Thats as many major tournaments as England.
Italy have won FOUR world cups (and a Euro in 1968). Thats three more than France.
Lest we forget the Germans who have three World Cups and three European Championships. Im sure they would be happy to "shout their mouth off" over that.
Stevie G "total shite" for England. Put the Daily Star down and actually concentrate on football instead of listening to the regurgitated shite trotted out by the tabloid press. Gerrard has struggled in the last campaign, as much due to inept coaching, a broken toe and sheer bad luck as his own bad form. Still managed some pretty good performances in amongst the media hyberbole. I didnt see much of the much lauded Mr Rooney for England during this period, yet I am not tempted to label his performances "total shite", its a collective thing.
French players can cope with the pressure i see. Well....i thought that a player headbutting an opponent who gave him a bit of verbal in a World Cup Final, getting yourself sent off and effectively ending your country's chances of winning the game prior to penalties would be considered "failing to deal with the pressure"- especially as they also lost the shootout. How about squandering a two goal lead to lose on penalties in a World Cup semi in 1982 because they couldnt cope after Schumacher's assault on Battiston? Or surrendering their World Cup crown without scoring a goal, and losing to World Cup debutants in 2002?? Is that how to handle pressure?
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Spain winning the Euros in 1964 great lets all learn from the Spanish laughable mate totally laughable.
Italy won two World Cups in the 1930s and if you know anything about the game and read the history these victories were tarnished with controversy. Italian football have been bribing officials and everything and everyone else since the year dot. My advice to you is to read up about Italian football because they have never one an honest game in there history mate. Quite frankly anything they do I always treat with suspicion. Look at the recent scandals if that was England we would never be allowed to compete in the local Sunday let alone international competitions.
Give you your due the Germans are well the Germans hold me hands up to them.
The French are total class and how you have the front to run them down is beyond me. What Schumacher did was common assault and if that does not affect a team's concerntration then I would not like you to be in a team with you because that was a disgrace. That incident was the turning point of the match and he should have been sent off and banned for a good period of time at least. To win the World Cup in 1998 and then follow that up with Euro 2000 in my eyes is sensational.
Zindane is one the greatest players to grace this game and being a Liverpool fan you should know that Materazzi has has form all over the place. He is one of the dirtiest players ever to grace the so called beautiful game and I will forgive Zizou that misdemeanour because many other players would probably have done the same thing. He has always had a nasty streak and some of the things that he has got away with is scandalous to say the least.
Finally your beloved Stevie G. World Class for Liverpool no question but for England not good enough. He was captain against Croatia and he had a poor game and did not lead by example. You can make all the excuses you want but he was average like most of his England performances. The only great game that I can remember from him was when we beat the Germans 5-1.
Also Wazza has been much more consistent for England than Stevie G period. Wazza was England's best player at Euro 2004 and Stevie G not only gave the ball away for one of the goals against the French but overall his play in tournaments for England have been average at best. He also missed a penalty for England in the shoot out against Portugal.