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Originally Posted by __-SNAKE-__
Yea true but overall, hes a 3rd class keeper, on the media he makes himself look like hes the best but in reality everyone knows what a flop of a keeper he really is, I guess the standard of Germany's keepers have really gone down since Oliver Kahn's retirement.
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I wouldn't go as far as saying that Lehmann is a 3rd class goalkeeper, but he is definately very unstable, you just never know if you can trust him.
In many matches, in Germany for BVB, he was doing some fantastic saves, then lets in a blunder out of nowhere.
When he is completely focused though, he can be an amazing goalkeeper, the thing is though, you just never know when he is focused.
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Originally Posted by Trim17
All talented, that's true.
But, they can't match Kahn.
None of them is as brave, as strong, as great as Kahn.
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Well if you put it that way...
But there are a lot of great goalkeepers in Germany, not just Kahn & Lehmann, there is Robert Enke who seems to have reached his prime last season, he was flawless. Amazing performances for Hannover and deserves to be given some credit. I do agree that he isn't as good as Kahn was in the past, but he is still very solid and the best German goalkeeper right now.
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Originally Posted by Trim17
Rensing has been solid for Bayern desputising Kahn.
Neuer does a good job at Schalke, and so does Adler at Leverkusen.
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About 2 years ago, Michael Rensing was the best young goalkeeper in Germany, but he hasn't progressed since then, so both Manuel Neuer and Rene Alder are ahead of him at this moment.
Now, Manuel Neuer has a style very similar to Jens Lehmann, both very good on the line and have a great comand in the area, but both are prone to make mistakes, though Lehmann is worse than Neuer.
While Rene Adler is doing brilliantly for Bayer and is currently the most promising goalkeeper in Germany. He has a very good height, amazing reflexes and agility, he reminds me of Timo Hildebrand in his glory days for VfB, but I can see Adler becoming better than Hildebrand and even getting very close to Kahn.
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Originally Posted by Trim17
Hildebrand is starting at Valencia recently, but everyone is criticising him.
And it's true, the veteran Canizares does much better.
Hildebrand had a very poor performance against Czechs aswell.
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That is a very harsh analyses on Timo.
It's not true that he is being criticised, he is actually being hailed by Quique Flores, who benched a very prone to mistakes Canizares and started Timo on these last few weeks and he is proving why this happened. Valencia haven't conceeded as many goals as before.
Against Czech Rep., I don't think Timo was to blame on the goals. Metzelder was the one responsible for the first 2 goals and the 3rd was just a very good play.
On the first goal, Metzelder was slow and couldn't get the Czech forward offside and on the second goal, he completely missed the tackle, allowing the Czech to be one on one with Timo.
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Originally Posted by Trim17
There is Tim Wiese, another good keeper. But, just good, that's it.
He's on a poor form aswell, he's conceding too much.
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Tim Wiese has a very similar style to Kahn, I honestly think that Wiese should indeed be called for Germany. On the line, Wiese is phenomenal, as good as Kahn was in his prime, but when Wiese gets off the line, the mistakes happen. Unfortunately for him and for Werder, these mistakes happen way too often and he usually isn't focused on the match. If he can correct that, he will be execelent.
All in all, I'd say that Robert Enke is currently the best goalkeeper, followed by Timo Hildebrand, very closely by Rene Adler and very closely by Tim Wiese, then Manuel Neuer and finally Jens Lehmann.
Future looks bright for Germany in terms of goalkeepers.