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Facebook users, search for the group titled "Calciopoli or Falsopoli; The Truth Behind The Trial That Crippled Juventus".

Once there, on the discussion board section, there is a topic on this thread, labelled "Really Informative Link to Calciopoli Thread". Some1 sent a link to the creator of the facebook group.

The creator of the group is extremely knowledgeable on this subject, and was nice enough to point out a few errors in this thread. Ill copy and paste what he wrote:

A reader found this link and sent it to me. It is great.

Calciogate; The Truth

This thread is loaded with valuable info and is very accurate. It is nice to see others taking up the good fight against the injustices of Calciopoli. I urge everyone to read the thread. That being said there are a handful of inaccuracies that I want to touch on for the readers.

- Guido Rossi wasn’t actually an official president. He was the Head Commissioner of the FIGC because Carraro (then President) was forced to step down due to his heavy role in the wire taps which I’ll touch on in a minute. After the scandal Guido was set to be named President but instead went to Telecom Italia and as a result Inter’s buddy Giancarlo Abete was named president.

- Milan were not exactly implicated in the same fashion Juve were. Milan were actually caught (Meani) ordering refs, requesting refs, and instructing refs/linesmen on how to officiate Milan games (i.e. “keep your flags down unless it’s on the opposite side of the field”). Meani was actually heard threatening a linesman (Coppelli) with violence. Milan were guilty of Article 6 violations and deserved Serie B but since it was the second time in the club’s history (Calcioscomesse in 1980) the team would have likely faced Serie C2 or been dissolved as a company entirely. Due to the severity Galliani used an argument with Chief Federcalcio Investigator Borrelli in a public meeting (held behind closed doors) that Meani acted alone and that his role (Milan Director of Referee Relations????) was separate from the club’s affairs despite Meani being on the Milan payroll for years. To solidify this point Borelli had the phone recordings connecting Meani to Galliani and Berlusconi pulled from the investigation. I still have them and Galliani is made well aware and even encourages Meani’s actions. Borelli effectively managed to reduce Milan’s article 6 violations to an article 1 violation only punishable only by a point deduction…enough to grant Inter its scudetto but keep Milan in the CL wrongfully (win win). Juve on the other hand never requested refs, never spoke with them, and certainly threatened no one and were still tried for Art 6 violations..

- The manipulation of the tapes was proven in court when a Telecom employee (Caterina Platea) confessed to destroying mounds of transcripts and altering names on others. The orders came from a Telecom paid detective (Adamo Bove) who committed suicide within two weeks of his assistant’s confession (July 21 2006 I believe). There are a few videos on the Facebook forum that show a technician manipulating calls with his computer that you should also watch under the SWIS SIM Card link. They actually also speak of a program used to make calls with the voice of another person called “Cambia Voce” (Voice Change). Moggi still insists that some calls (though hardly incriminating) were not his and this program would explain how they came about.

- The question of the “different fate” had Inter not been in charge of the trial is answered by the Torinese Magistrates that handled the exact same tapes months earlier. Juventus were found not guilty of anything at all. It wasn’t until Inter’s henchmen seized their opportunity that all the calls became “incriminating”.

- Fiorentina, Lazio, and Reggina were implicated for minor offenses according to the thread but that is only true for Reggina. The other two were initially tried and found guilty of actual match fixing and rightfully so. Lazio president Lotito begged referee designers for a hand and it got worse when FIGC President Carraro yelled at Referee Designer Bergamo for sending a referee that didn’t assist a struggling Lazio. He was heard saying “even if it isn’t a penalty you tell them to give us the penalty…understand? After they play Milan though…obviously…cause we need to give them a hand”. Why was Carraro (Milanista and former Milan president) so interested in protecting Lazio? Easy, he owns the majority of the team along with Roma, which by the way is already illegal based on the UEFA rule that prohibits dual ownership of clubs within Europe (the rule kept Abramovic of Chelsea from buying Cagliari in 2003). He ownes 40% of Capitalia Investment Bank which owns the majority shares of both AS Roma and SS Lazio. It is no wonder they were of interest. It shouldn’t shock anyone now to see that Roma were never investigated and after an appeal Lazio went from Serie B with a point deduction to Serie A with a 3 point deduction. Fiorentina were also found guilty of attempted match fixing because owner Della Valle proposed fixing Lazio-Fiorentina to Lotito in favour of Fiorentina (a phone call taken out of the investigation on appeal). The reason it was taken out was because if Fiorentina were convicted of attempting to fix that game (ART 6 Violation) then Lazio too would be found guilty of not reporting Della Valle’s actions to the FIGC (also an ART 6 Violation). Fiorentina were only saved by default to protect Carraro’s investment. By the way Berlusconi also has his hand in Capitalia Investment group (being Milan’s owner makes that 3 times illegal).

- Lecce-Parma was the only “fixed” game of the season according to judges but it was really just an excuse. No evidence supports it and when referee De Santis tried to defend his case with video evidence the judges refused to accept the videos claiming that they were irrelevant??????. Truth is someone wanted De Santis discredited, perhaps because of all the incriminating phone calls he received from Facchetti (late Inter President) that could have blown up in Inter’s face. It should be noted that no videos or actual phone calls were allowed to be used as defense in these proceedings because they were deemed irrelevant. An example is when Moggi’s phone call stating that referee Rosetti was “no good for Juve” was used as referee manipulation (he wanted someone else for Juve according to the prosecution). When you listen to the whole call you hear him explain that Rosetti can’t do a Juve game because he is a resident of Piemonte (where Torino is located). Since the Lega rule states no referee can officiate a team of his region, the call can be justified and discredited as evidence of referee manipulation. Moggi couldn’t bring the recording though…it was “irrelevant”. Instead they used the 3 lines or so that the Neapolitan magistrates conveniently extracted from that call to show what they wanted…it was more “relevant” that way.

- Juve’s involvement runs deeper than what is posted in the thread. Caterina Platea also confessed to seeing Montezemolo (Ferrari President and FIAT Director) present at Telecom meetings. The FIAT boys hated the triade and wanted them out definitively (without the possibility of them going to a competitor like Inter and Milan who both tried buying them). They obtained that by selling shares of Juventus to new buyers (hand picked) just prior to the scandal to minimize Moggi and Giraudo’s shareholder voting power. Financial evidence of this can be found in Juve’s financial statements. This lack of voting power forced Moggi and Giraudo to step down and Bettega was soon replaced as well. With the triade castrated, FIAT was finally able to take command of the team and obtain more funding for Ferrari through Telecom Italia sponsorship.

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